Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2

2017-04-04 Thread john slee
I think it ends up neutral or slightly positive. If your site developers have got rid of the old HTTP/1.x antipatterns (separate FQDN for static resources, FQDN sharding, etc), turning on HTTP/2 will probably be a net win. Easily enough to cancel out the added cost of mandatory TLS? But just

Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2

2017-04-01 Thread Nicolai
On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 03:04:50AM +1100, bytevolc...@safe-mail.net wrote: > The benefits are there, but I feel it encourages lazy and disorganized > web development, leading to stupidly bloated and inefficient sites, HTTP/2 multiplexing is only "effective" when web designers have built websites

Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2

2017-04-01 Thread Janne Johansson
2017-03-31 13:30 GMT+02:00 Marina Ala : > UDP servers listening? would that open possibility for massive DOSes? > QUIC does make sure the client initial UDP packets are larger than the response until some secret handshakes are completed, so a QUIC webserver won't be a good

Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2

2017-03-31 Thread Yury Shefer
Isn't it a result of wrong assumptions based on developer's experience with employer-provided high-end laptops and workstations? Like "oh, i'm gonna to add this feature and that tweak here and it will be good enough because any PC (around me, in the office) has 16 (ok, at least 8) Gb of RAM AND

Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2

2017-03-31 Thread bytevolcano
On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 12:14:34 +0200 Reyk Floeter wrote: > Isn't QUIC the hot new thing now? It is UDP, so Google can reinvent > TCP and turn even more of their browser into an OS-replacement ;) Oh come on now, how else will Google be able to claim they are inventing or

Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2

2017-03-31 Thread Peter Hessler
" <marina...@mail.com> :Cc: "OpenBSD Misc" <misc@openbsd.org> :Subject: Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2 :On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 09:14:10AM +0200, Marina Ala wrote: :> Hello! :> :> When will the httpd have HTTP/2 support in OpenBSD? :> :> Endpoints, webserver

Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2

2017-03-31 Thread Marina Ala
UDP servers listening? would that open possibility for massive DOSes?    Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 at 12:14 PM From: "Reyk Floeter" <r...@openbsd.org> To: "Marina Ala" <marina...@mail.com> Cc: "OpenBSD Misc" <misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: OpenBS

Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2

2017-03-31 Thread Reyk Floeter
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 09:14:10AM +0200, Marina Ala wrote: > Hello! > > When will the httpd have HTTP/2 support in OpenBSD? > > Endpoints, webservers and the devices/networs between the two points would > greatly benefit from HTTP/2. > > Faster and less traffic. > > Thanks. > Isn't