Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* Stefan Johnson tigerphoenixdra...@gmail.com [2011-12-07 20:53]: I want to thank everyone that replied. I have gone to google for information about openbsd, i386, pae, and similar. I see that there was a talk done back in 2006 or so about PAE on i386. I see some old old old threads about

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-08 Thread Stefan Johnson
OpenBSD does not have any PAE support. The fact that some bits are in the source tree doesn't have much to do with it. See it as hints for a developer who wants to pick up the PAE work. But since most i386 machines with 4G are amd64-capable and this not being something easy I don't see that

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-12-07, Stefan Johnson tigerphoenixdra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Today I replaced OpenSuSE with OpenBSD 5.0 on my HP ML 570 G2 server. The system includes to memory boards for RAM. One board has 8 gigs, and the other has 4. The power on self test sees 12 and initializes 12, but

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Nomen Nescio
Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports 4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation?

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread David Riley
On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports 4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation? Yes and no; higher-end Intel 32-bit parts from the Pentium Pro upward supported Physical Address

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 04:05:07PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports 4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation? Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which a 32-bit

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:45:56 -0200 Daniel Bolgheroni wrote: Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which a 32-bit processor can address more than 32-bit physical addresses. But not without the OS supporting it. Wouldn't that make ROP attacks more difficult too?

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 04:25:15PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:45:56 -0200 Daniel Bolgheroni wrote: Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which a 32-bit processor can address more than 32-bit physical addresses. But not without the OS

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Stefan Johnson
I want to thank everyone that replied. I have gone to google for information about openbsd, i386, pae, and similar. I see that there was a talk done back in 2006 or so about PAE on i386. I see some old old old threads about it working, not working, working again, not working again, breaking

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
it's not a case of setting options or a custom kernel, it involves writing code (rather delicate kernel code). on this particular hardware, you are basically either stuck with 4GB or running another OS. On 2011-12-07, Stefan Johnson tigerphoenixdra...@gmail.com wrote: I want to thank everyone

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-06 Thread Andres Perera
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Stefan Johnson tigerphoenixdra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. B Today I replaced OpenSuSE with OpenBSD 5.0 on my HP ML 570 G2 server. well, you should have searched for openbsd and PAE :) i don't think they're going to bother at this point, but don't take my