Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:52:03PM -0500, Denny White wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alright, I was able to get the printer to print using the apsfilter. Works awesome! Now to buy some ink and remove all traces of windows from my hard drive. Thanks again everyone! Alright, well the disposition didn't have any cheap laser printers but I did find a HP DeskJet 810C for $15. I know you guys said stay away from inkjet printers, but the price was right and the hpijs driver says it supports it. It's connected via usb. I installed hpijs along with all it's dependencies. I then edited /etc/printcap with: lp|DeskJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJEt_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/output:\ :sh After starting lpd, I then tried to print with lpr, lpr /etc/printcap. The printer starts up and begins to print, but then the paper light comes on and after pressing it, a blank sheet comes out. Anybody have any thoughts? Is my printcap wrong? Thanks. Today James Turner wrote: Well, it seems I'm still having issues with apsfilter. It prints the first 1/4 of the page on one sheet and the other 3/4 on another. I'm now trying the foomatic-rip script again, which is yielding the same result as last time. Some one emailed me a nice set of instructions off list, but I no longer have them since I thought apsfilter was working. Below is my /etc/printcap file, I have a2ps, hpijs and ghostscript all installed. Any help would be great, thanks. lp|DeskJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJet_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :sh: Moved your posting down so it can be followed better. I never had much luck with apsfilter or hpijs. I have an old HP DeskJet 722C on an xp box. Everytime I do a new install of OpenBSD, I copy foomatic-rip the pertinent ppd file to /usr/local/bin use the following /etc/printcap entry: rp|windows line printer:\ :rp=HPDeskJet:\ :rm=remotexpbox:\ :af=/usr/local/bin/pnm2ppa.ppd:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/output:\ :mx#0:\ :sh I noticed your ppd file is either gzipped or the entry in your printcap is wrong. That may be a capability of apsfilter, foomatic or hpijs I'm not familiar with. Don't know, but in all probability, someone on the list may enlighten me. ;) Also, my printer is not usb so that may be an issue. I just know the procedure I outlined above works okay here. So, try putting the ungzipped ppd file into /usr/local/bin, set the path appropriately in printcap, then try lpr -Plp filetoprint Hope this helps. - --Denny White === GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A === -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (OpenBSD) iD8DBQFGEc9oy0Ty5RZE55oRAi+EAJ9eVlnhCg3yNOPNr/Da71qsCZw8twCgiMtu DX8aoVA2QVqz0CsImN+GDHc= =Jfhw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thanks for the help, gunzipping the ppd file and moving it into /usr/local/bin worked. Except it's doing what apsfilter did, printing the first half on one sheet of paper and the rest on another. Could this be a problem with the printer? This is the point where I wished I follower everyone's advice and just spent the money on a laser postscript printer!
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
Well, it seems I'm still having issues with apsfilter. It prints the first 1/4 of the page on one sheet and the other 3/4 on another. I'm now trying the foomatic-rip script again, which is yielding the same result as last time. Some one emailed me a nice set of instructions off list, but I no longer have them since I thought apsfilter was working. Below is my /etc/printcap file, I have a2ps, hpijs and ghostscript all installed. Any help would be great, thanks. lp|DeskJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJet_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :sh: Alright, I was able to get the printer to print using the apsfilter. Works awesome! Now to buy some ink and remove all traces of windows from my hard drive. Thanks again everyone! Alright, well the disposition didn't have any cheap laser printers but I did find a HP DeskJet 810C for $15. I know you guys said stay away from inkjet printers, but the price was right and the hpijs driver says it supports it. It's connected via usb. I installed hpijs along with all it's dependencies. I then edited /etc/printcap with: lp|DeskJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJEt_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/output:\ :sh After starting lpd, I then tried to print with lpr, lpr /etc/printcap. The printer starts up and begins to print, but then the paper light comes on and after pressing it, a blank sheet comes out. Anybody have any thoughts? Is my printcap wrong? Thanks.
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alright, I was able to get the printer to print using the apsfilter. Works awesome! Now to buy some ink and remove all traces of windows from my hard drive. Thanks again everyone! Alright, well the disposition didn't have any cheap laser printers but I did find a HP DeskJet 810C for $15. I know you guys said stay away from inkjet printers, but the price was right and the hpijs driver says it supports it. It's connected via usb. I installed hpijs along with all it's dependencies. I then edited /etc/printcap with: lp|DeskJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJEt_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/output:\ :sh After starting lpd, I then tried to print with lpr, lpr /etc/printcap. The printer starts up and begins to print, but then the paper light comes on and after pressing it, a blank sheet comes out. Anybody have any thoughts? Is my printcap wrong? Thanks. Today James Turner wrote: Well, it seems I'm still having issues with apsfilter. It prints the first 1/4 of the page on one sheet and the other 3/4 on another. I'm now trying the foomatic-rip script again, which is yielding the same result as last time. Some one emailed me a nice set of instructions off list, but I no longer have them since I thought apsfilter was working. Below is my /etc/printcap file, I have a2ps, hpijs and ghostscript all installed. Any help would be great, thanks. lp|DeskJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJet_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :sh: Moved your posting down so it can be followed better. I never had much luck with apsfilter or hpijs. I have an old HP DeskJet 722C on an xp box. Everytime I do a new install of OpenBSD, I copy foomatic-rip the pertinent ppd file to /usr/local/bin use the following /etc/printcap entry: rp|windows line printer:\ :rp=HPDeskJet:\ :rm=remotexpbox:\ :af=/usr/local/bin/pnm2ppa.ppd:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/output:\ :mx#0:\ :sh I noticed your ppd file is either gzipped or the entry in your printcap is wrong. That may be a capability of apsfilter, foomatic or hpijs I'm not familiar with. Don't know, but in all probability, someone on the list may enlighten me. ;) Also, my printer is not usb so that may be an issue. I just know the procedure I outlined above works okay here. So, try putting the ungzipped ppd file into /usr/local/bin, set the path appropriately in printcap, then try lpr -Plp filetoprint Hope this helps. - --Denny White === GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A === iD8DBQFGEc9oy0Ty5RZE55oRAi+EAJ9eVlnhCg3yNOPNr/Da71qsCZw8twCgiMtu DX8aoVA2QVqz0CsImN+GDHc= =Jfhw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On 3/21/07, Bob Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-21 00:11]: I'm looking to finally cut the last strand that keeps windows on my hard drive. I currently have a brother mfc-210c printer. I'm looking to replace it with a cheap openbsd/lpr friendly solution. Although the mfc is a multifunction printer, that is not a requirement for the new printer. It has finally sunk in how sad it is to have to keep windows just to print, it's also a pain in the ass to have to reboot every time I want to print. Any suggestions would be awesome, thanks. LexMark C510 laser. Color, ethernet, postscript. $325 CDN 6 months ago just works. I've had nothing but pain and aggravation with bullshit inkjets. That sounds like a nice one. Unfortunately I don't think the OP is going to find anything with ps for under his target price of $50. Oh well. Greg
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:27:40AM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: * James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-21 00:11]: I'm looking to finally cut the last strand that keeps windows on my hard drive. I currently have a brother mfc-210c printer. I'm looking to replace it with a cheap openbsd/lpr friendly solution. Although the mfc is a multifunction printer, that is not a requirement for the new printer. It has finally sunk in how sad it is to have to keep windows just to print, it's also a pain in the ass to have to reboot every time I want to print. Any suggestions would be awesome, thanks. LexMark C510 laser. Color, ethernet, postscript. $325 CDN 6 months ago just works. I've had nothing but pain and aggravation with bullshit inkjets. -B Although this seems like a great printer, my biggest limitation is price. We have a university property disposition near me, which I'm going to go check out later today. My friend has gotten a couple sun sparc stations from them for under $20 bucks. I'm hoping they will have some cheap laser printers. Thanks for your recommendation.
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:27:40AM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: LexMark C510 laser. Color, ethernet, postscript. $325 CDN 6 months ago just works. I've had nothing but pain and aggravation with bullshit inkjets. Was that new or used? And if you don't mind sharing where you bought it then please do. I'm finding them, but for a lot more money. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/ |
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On 3/21/07, James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although this seems like a great printer, my biggest limitation is price. We have a university property disposition near me, which I'm going to go check out later today. My friend has gotten a couple sun sparc stations from them for under $20 bucks. I'm hoping they will have some cheap laser printers. Thanks for your recommendation. Several years ago I got an old, used Xerox laser printer for really cheap, with postscript and network interface, in a similar place. For printing term papers I'd highly recommend trying to find a used laser. Greg
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
Although this seems like a great printer, my biggest limitation is price. We have a university property disposition near me, which I'm going to go check out later today. My friend has gotten a couple sun sparc stations from them for under $20 bucks. I'm hoping they will have some cheap laser printers. Thanks for your recommendation. If you're going to a surplus auction from a university, any of the older school hp lasrjet printers (4m+ 5m, etc. etc.) that do postscript would be a good pick. heavy as all hell, and not good on power (so you need to turn them off when you're not using it if you're paying the power bill) but you can still get cartridge refills easy for them. You may need to be a bit clever and take some oil of wintergreen to the rubber pickup rollers if they're old and slick. A postscript ethernet capable laserjet would work well. your biggest risk there is you get one with a crappy cartridge or drum, meaning you'd need to shell out another hundred bucks or so to make it work, which can turn your $20 printer into $170 printer pretty quick. Do your homework and find somethign that speaks postscript. -Bob
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
* Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-21 11:30]: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:27:40AM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: LexMark C510 laser. Color, ethernet, postscript. $325 CDN 6 months ago just works. I've had nothing but pain and aggravation with bullshit inkjets. Was that new or used? And if you don't mind sharing where you bought it then please do. I'm finding them, but for a lot more money. New, used, it doesn't matter Most of them have bullshit printer suport that you have to install crazy ghostscript filters to print to them, or cups nonsense. Bleah. Get something that groks postscript :) -Bob
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:35:53AM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: * Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-21 11:30]: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:27:40AM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: LexMark C510 laser. Color, ethernet, postscript. $325 CDN 6 months ago just works. I've had nothing but pain and aggravation with bullshit inkjets. Was that new or used? And if you don't mind sharing where you bought it then please do. I'm finding them, but for a lot more money. New, used, it doesn't matter Most of them have bullshit printer suport that you have to install crazy ghostscript filters to print to them, or cups nonsense. Bleah. Get something that groks postscript :) Ok, I should have trimmed more. I was asking about the LexMark C510, which I have only found for way more than the $325 you mentioned ($500-600). If you know of a cheap source then please share! -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/ |
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, James Turner wrote: Although this seems like a great printer, my biggest limitation is price. We have a university property disposition near me, which I'm going to go check out later today. My friend has gotten a couple sun sparc stations from them for under $20 bucks. I'm hoping they will have some cheap laser printers. Thanks for your recommendation. Printers are the bane of my existance. However, I have had wonderful experiences with the HP LJ 4m. Ancient, power-hungr, loud. Yet it works beautifly with postscript via serial, parallel, or over the network (you can just do cat blah.ps | nc printer some-port-i-forget. Nmap it to find out.) The guys down at the surplus probably consider it worthless junk, so that should help with your price. -- Travers Buda
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
Alright, well the disposition didn't have any cheap laser printers but I did find a HP DeskJet 810C for $15. I know you guys said stay away from inkjet printers, but the price was right and the hpijs driver says it supports it. It's connected via usb. I installed hpijs along with all it's dependencies. I then edited /etc/printcap with: lp|DeskJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJEt_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/output:\ :sh After starting lpd, I then tried to print with lpr, lpr /etc/printcap. The printer starts up and begins to print, but then the paper light comes on and after pressing it, a blank sheet comes out. Anybody have any thoughts? Is my printcap wrong? Thanks. On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:15:33AM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: Although this seems like a great printer, my biggest limitation is price. We have a university property disposition near me, which I'm going to go check out later today. My friend has gotten a couple sun sparc stations from them for under $20 bucks. I'm hoping they will have some cheap laser printers. Thanks for your recommendation. If you're going to a surplus auction from a university, any of the older school hp lasrjet printers (4m+ 5m, etc. etc.) that do postscript would be a good pick. heavy as all hell, and not good on power (so you need to turn them off when you're not using it if you're paying the power bill) but you can still get cartridge refills easy for them. You may need to be a bit clever and take some oil of wintergreen to the rubber pickup rollers if they're old and slick. A postscript ethernet capable laserjet would work well. your biggest risk there is you get one with a crappy cartridge or drum, meaning you'd need to shell out another hundred bucks or so to make it work, which can turn your $20 printer into $170 printer pretty quick. Do your homework and find somethign that speaks postscript. -Bob
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
Alright, I was able to get the printer to print using the apsfilter. Works awesome! Now to buy some ink and remove all traces of windows from my hard drive. Thanks again everyone! On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 03:46:19PM -0400, James Turner wrote: Alright, well the disposition didn't have any cheap laser printers but I did find a HP DeskJet 810C for $15. I know you guys said stay away from inkjet printers, but the price was right and the hpijs driver says it supports it. It's connected via usb. I installed hpijs along with all it's dependencies. I then edited /etc/printcap with: lp|DeskJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJEt_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/output:\ :sh After starting lpd, I then tried to print with lpr, lpr /etc/printcap. The printer starts up and begins to print, but then the paper light comes on and after pressing it, a blank sheet comes out. Anybody have any thoughts? Is my printcap wrong? Thanks. On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:15:33AM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: Although this seems like a great printer, my biggest limitation is price. We have a university property disposition near me, which I'm going to go check out later today. My friend has gotten a couple sun sparc stations from them for under $20 bucks. I'm hoping they will have some cheap laser printers. Thanks for your recommendation. If you're going to a surplus auction from a university, any of the older school hp lasrjet printers (4m+ 5m, etc. etc.) that do postscript would be a good pick. heavy as all hell, and not good on power (so you need to turn them off when you're not using it if you're paying the power bill) but you can still get cartridge refills easy for them. You may need to be a bit clever and take some oil of wintergreen to the rubber pickup rollers if they're old and slick. A postscript ethernet capable laserjet would work well. your biggest risk there is you get one with a crappy cartridge or drum, meaning you'd need to shell out another hundred bucks or so to make it work, which can turn your $20 printer into $170 printer pretty quick. Do your homework and find somethign that speaks postscript. -Bob
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
James Turner wrote: Although this seems like a great printer, my biggest limitation is price. We have a university property disposition near me, which I'm going to go check out later today. My friend has gotten a couple sun sparc stations from them for under $20 bucks. I'm hoping they will have some cheap laser printers. Thanks for your recommendation. A used small-office laser is probably a better bet, but if you want cheap there's always the Dell 1110 (http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Dell-1100_Laser_Printer) and from what I see it looks like it should work with some configuration. Of course, Bob's right, getting a Postscript printer (or even PCL) is the way to go. I got a Dell 3100CN for ~$US260 shipped a while back, so keep your eyes peeled. It'll be a long time before I need another printer.
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:19:39PM -0700, Greg Thomas wrote: On 3/20/07, James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to finally cut the last strand that keeps windows on my hard drive. You didn't mention ink or laser but my Brother HL-5250DN works GREAT for the price. Greg Ink is fine, I'm just looking for something to print my term papers. I prefer a price tag under $50.
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
* James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-21 00:11]: I'm looking to finally cut the last strand that keeps windows on my hard drive. I currently have a brother mfc-210c printer. I'm looking to replace it with a cheap openbsd/lpr friendly solution. Although the mfc is a multifunction printer, that is not a requirement for the new printer. It has finally sunk in how sad it is to have to keep windows just to print, it's also a pain in the ass to have to reboot every time I want to print. Any suggestions would be awesome, thanks. LexMark C510 laser. Color, ethernet, postscript. $325 CDN 6 months ago just works. I've had nothing but pain and aggravation with bullshit inkjets. -B
Re: USB Printer Recommendation
On 3/20/07, James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to finally cut the last strand that keeps windows on my hard drive. You didn't mention ink or laser but my Brother HL-5250DN works GREAT for the price. Greg
