Re: USB stuff (was Re: theo)
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 22:51 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering the goals of OpenBSD, I would not expect USB rodents, sound cards or even video to be necessarily well supported. The reality is that USB gear is becoming much, much more common. USB HIDs (human interface devices) should be well supported, as in many cases that's all that is available (given that the USB-PS/2 adapters often get lost and are manufacturer-specific). If using the mouse was of prime importance, I'd use Windows Not a choice when freedom is *anywhere* on the list of concerns. I, personally, am actively boycotting Microsoft at the current time (including hardware and the Xb*x gaming consoles). Don't get me wrong, I don't use OpenBSD for everything either (I am writing this from a Debian GNU/Linux system). But asserting that USB device support in OpenBSD is unrealistic, is questionable at best and downright ludicrous at worst. We already have some USB-only KVM switches. -- Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] What are you trying to say? USB support in OpenBSD is very decent. Of course there wil always be machine/device combinations that have problems, but in general things are fine. -Otto
Re: USB stuff (was Re: theo)
Could this thread just die please, The problem did not lie with the mouse the laptop in question had screwy pci interrupt routing and consequently configuration of the usb controller failed. GWK On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:40:09AM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 22:51 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering the goals of OpenBSD, I would not expect USB rodents, sound cards or even video to be necessarily well supported. The reality is that USB gear is becoming much, much more common. USB HIDs (human interface devices) should be well supported, as in many cases that's all that is available (given that the USB-PS/2 adapters often get lost and are manufacturer-specific). If using the mouse was of prime importance, I'd use Windows Not a choice when freedom is *anywhere* on the list of concerns. I, personally, am actively boycotting Microsoft at the current time (including hardware and the Xb*x gaming consoles). Don't get me wrong, I don't use OpenBSD for everything either (I am writing this from a Debian GNU/Linux system). But asserting that USB device support in OpenBSD is unrealistic, is questionable at best and downright ludicrous at worst. We already have some USB-only KVM switches. -- Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB stuff (was Re: theo)
Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 22:51 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering the goals of OpenBSD, I would not expect USB rodents, sound cards or even video to be necessarily well supported. The reality is that USB gear is becoming much, much more common. USB HIDs (human interface devices) should be well supported, as in many cases that's all that is available (given that the USB-PS/2 adapters often get lost and are manufacturer-specific). If using the mouse was of prime importance, I'd use Windows Not a choice when freedom is *anywhere* on the list of concerns. I, personally, am actively boycotting Microsoft at the current time (including hardware and the Xb*x gaming consoles). Don't get me wrong, I don't use OpenBSD for everything either (I am writing this from a Debian GNU/Linux system). But asserting that USB device support in OpenBSD is unrealistic, is questionable at best and downright ludicrous at worst. We already have some USB-only KVM switches. -- Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] What are you trying to say? USB support in OpenBSD is very decent. Of course there wil always be machine/device combinations that have problems, but in general things are fine. -Otto Completely agree. The source of this mess was some strange combination of laptop USB mouse, which is exactly the sort of place that tends to have problems. USB-only KVM switches most likely attached to well designed servers as opposed to assorted screwey laptops. However, I suspect that headless still takes precedence over GUI. (Slow night/day/whatever when this thread dominates)
