Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium

Hi guys,
(Pardon since lot of people use *BSD and Linux together but if rude,
I'll take it off-list)
Ok. It installs fine.
However, I keep getting segfaults on simple programs (such as xorgconfig).
(I don't have exact text/dmesg to dump right now but I can produce it
if required)

Is it that VirtualBox isn't emulating x86 hardware properly? Or, is it
a bug in obsd? (I am thinking the former). Any Ideas/suggestion are
entertained (Trying in VMware right now)
It's VirtualBox - looks like it's still crap. VMWare works fine, so does 
qemu.


PK 



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread Joel Dinel
 Is it that VirtualBox isn't emulating x86 hardware properly? Or, is it
 a bug in obsd? (I am thinking the former). Any Ideas/suggestion are
 entertained (Trying in VMware right now)

First, get VirtualBox 3.0.8. Your version is ancient.

Run it on a machine that has either Intel VT-x or AMD-V. Make a new vm
host and make sure the VT-X or AMD-V option is enable for that host.
OpenBSD should run fine afterwards.

OR, get VMWare server. It's free, and doesn't emulate a poor CPU like
VirtualBox does.

http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/639



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread Ishwor Gurung
Folks,
Hi. Thanks for replying.

 First, get VirtualBox 3.0.8. Your version is ancient.
Yep I figured after posting. I will do that when I have some time(but
not for some time now[see below]).

 Run it on a machine that has either Intel VT-x or AMD-V. Make a new vm
 host and make sure the VT-X or AMD-V option is enable for that host.
 OpenBSD should run fine afterwards.
Yep. Did that on VirtualBox2.2 already still didn't like it. This
rig's cpu has VT-x.

 OR, get VMWare server. It's free, and doesn't emulate a poor CPU like
 VirtualBox does.
Did this actually. Obsd4.4 is running great. Recommend it to folks for
sure. Nothing but praise.
(I used VMware server on Linux ages ago, the damn UI has moved to web!
now now talking about web2.0.. ;-))
-- 
Regards,
Ishwor Gurung



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread Ishwor Gurung
[...]

 rig's cpu has VT-x.
s/has/supports
-- 
Regards,
Ishwor Gurung



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Peter Kay - Syllopsium wrote:

 It's VirtualBox - looks like it's still crap. VMWare works fine, so does
 qemu.

As does VirtualBox with proper hardware support (AMD64 Socket AM2), ..
though we do not use X on VMx.

Lee



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
2009/10/7 Ishwor Gurung ishwor.gur...@gmail.com:
 Hi guys,
 (Pardon since lot of people use *BSD and Linux together but if rude,
 I'll take it off-list)
 Ok. It installs fine.
 However, I keep getting segfaults on simple programs (such as xorgconfig).
 (I don't have exact text/dmesg to dump right now but I can produce it
 if required)

This is an ancient bug in virtualbox, check their bug track I believe
it is fixed.


 Is it that VirtualBox isn't emulating x86 hardware properly? Or, is it
 a bug in obsd? (I am thinking the former). Any Ideas/suggestion are
 entertained (Trying in VMware right now)

 Thanks.
 --
 Regards,
 Ishwor Gurung



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium

From: L. V. Lammert l...@omnitec.net
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Peter Kay - Syllopsium wrote:


It's VirtualBox - looks like it's still crap. VMWare works fine, so does
qemu.


As does VirtualBox with proper hardware support (AMD64 Socket AM2), ..
though we do not use X on VMx.
Are you seriously saying VirtualBox is a viable option by specifying one 
hardware

platform? I don't see why AMD64 really helps, or AM2 for that matter - some
AMD platforms have iommu but that shouldn't be relevant either.

Qemu runs OpenBSD without VT. So does VMWare server (although that will
transparently switch it on, at least on VMWare server x64)

OpenBSD wasn't the only OS VirtualBox had problems with last time I tried, 
either.

VMWare, Qemu and VirtualPC all worked flawlessly.

VT may help, but the VMM should run without it.

PK 



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
 Is it that VirtualBox isn't emulating x86 hardware properly? Or, is it
 a bug in obsd? (I am thinking the former). Any Ideas/suggestion are
 entertained (Trying in VMware right now)

Yes, Virtualbox is not emulating a PC correctly.



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread L. V. Lammert

At 03:27 PM 10/7/2009 +0100, Peter Kay - Syllopsium wrote:

From: L. V. Lammert l...@omnitec.net
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Peter Kay - Syllopsium wrote:


It's VirtualBox - looks like it's still crap. VMWare works fine, so does
qemu.

As does VirtualBox with proper hardware support (AMD64 Socket AM2), ..
though we do not use X on VMx.
Are you seriously saying VirtualBox is a viable option by specifying one 
hardware

platform? I don't see why AMD64 really helps, or AM2 for that matter - some
AMD platforms have iommu but that shouldn't be relevant either.


No, I am reinforcing two complementary points:

1) Hardware support is required to run OBSD on VirtualBox, and it runs on 
AMD64AM2;

2) Virtualbox can be used as a host for OBSD with AMD64AM2.

Sorry, thought that would have been obvious. Nothing more, nothing less.

Lee



Re: VirtualBox2.2+OpenBSD4.4 (fail)

2009-10-07 Thread Ross Cameron
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:57 PM, L. V. Lammert l...@omnitec.net wrote:

 At 03:27 PM 10/7/2009 +0100, Peter Kay - Syllopsium wrote:

 From: L. V. Lammert l...@omnitec.net
 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Peter Kay - Syllopsium wrote:

  It's VirtualBox - looks like it's still crap. VMWare works fine, so does
 qemu.

 As does VirtualBox with proper hardware support (AMD64 Socket AM2), ..
 though we do not use X on VMx.

 Are you seriously saying VirtualBox is a viable option by specifying one
 hardware
 platform? I don't see why AMD64 really helps, or AM2 for that matter -
 some
 AMD platforms have iommu but that shouldn't be relevant either.


 No, I am reinforcing two complementary points:

 1) Hardware support is required to run OBSD on VirtualBox, and it runs on
 AMD64AM2;
 2) Virtualbox can be used as a host for OBSD with AMD64AM2.

 Sorry, thought that would have been obvious. Nothing more, nothing less.

Lee


I am using VirtualBox 3.0.8 on OS X and the following OSs run better than
they do in VMware Server on an identical laptop running RHEL.

FreeBSD 6.2-7.2
OpenBSD 4.3-4.5
RHEL 4-5.4
Windows 2003 and XP

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