Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-19 Thread Volker Schlecht

On 2023-12-15 18:49, David Coppa wrote:

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 6:29 PM  wrote:


So they're putting a Wayland in our BSD.

I've never used that before.

Is a port of cwm planned?


I really don't think so.

But there's hikari, a stacking Wayland compositor heavily inspired by
cwm: https://hikari.acmelabs.space/

We might probably have a port of it in our ports tree in the future.


I'm currently looking into that, but porting it to wlroots 0.17.0 that we
have in ports is quite a bit of work. Did you already look into that? Just
to avoid double effort.



Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread deich...@placebonol.com
C'mon folks, this is OpenBSD misc@, you can disagree all you want about other 
projects code of conduct, just don't do it here.

In other words STFU and contribute something to OpenBSD.

73
diana


Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread Masanori Ogino
Hi,

On Saturday, December 16th, 2023 at 9:17, Anders Andersson  
wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 12:47 AM tux2bsd tux2...@protonmail.com wrote:
> 
> > > I'm not sure their "Geekfeminism Code of Conduct"
> > > (https://hikari.acmelabs.space/coc.html) works well with OpenBSD.
> > 
> > Any idiot that adheres gender and race ideologies can get fucked, they are 
> > all societal fire starters.
> > 
> > tux2bsd
> 
> 
> Oh no, you are now banned from participating in hikari development!
> 
> "Offensive comments related to gender, gender identity and expression,
> [...], race, or religion"
> 
> combined with:
> 
> "The abuse team reserves the right to exclude people from the hikari
> community based on their past behavior, including behavior outside
> hikari spaces and behavior towards people who are not in the hikari
> community."

I am sorry if I misunderstood due to my poor English, but politics-free (as in 
the OpenBSD project goals) does not mean using sarcasm to people committing to 
politics, does it?

By the way, are you sure if LLVM's one [1] works well with OpenBSD? It is in 
the base system.

[1]: https://llvm.org/docs/CodeOfConduct.html

Best,
Masanori



Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 2:05 AM Justin Yates Fletcher
 wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2023-12-16 at 00:22 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 7:01 PM David Coppa  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 6:29 PM  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So they're putting a Wayland in our BSD.
> > > >
> > > > I've never used that before.
> > > >
> > > > Is a port of cwm planned?
> > >
> > > I really don't think so.
> > >
> > > But there's hikari, a stacking Wayland compositor heavily inspired
> > > by
> > > cwm: https://hikari.acmelabs.space/
> > >
> > > We might probably have a port of it in our ports tree in the
> > > future.
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > David
> > >
> >
> > I'm not sure their "Geekfeminism Code of Conduct"
> > (https://hikari.acmelabs.space/coc.html) works well with OpenBSD.
> >
>
>
> You put "Geekfeminism" in the same quotes as "Code of Conduct".. I
> suspect you did so for a reason.  "Geekfeminism" does not exist on the
> Hikari page at all.

Then we're not looking at the same page. I went to the link posted in
the email: https://hikari.acmelabs.space/

"Community
The hikari community aims to be inclusive and welcoming to everyone,
this is why we chose to adhere to the Geekfeminism Code of Conduct."

After reading the linked code of conduct I found that statement to be
such a contradiction and doublespeak that I just had to mention it.



Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread Uwe Werler
Please keep woke bs out of technical development.

Am 16. Dezember 2023 00:22:51 MEZ schrieb Anders Andersson :
>On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 7:01 PM David Coppa  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 6:29 PM  wrote:
>> >
>> > So they're putting a Wayland in our BSD.
>> >
>> > I've never used that before.
>> >
>> > Is a port of cwm planned?
>>
>> I really don't think so.
>>
>> But there's hikari, a stacking Wayland compositor heavily inspired by
>> cwm: https://hikari.acmelabs.space/
>>
>> We might probably have a port of it in our ports tree in the future.
>>
>> Ciao,
>> David
>>
>
>I'm not sure their "Geekfeminism Code of Conduct"
>(https://hikari.acmelabs.space/coc.html) works well with OpenBSD.
>

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Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread Justin Yates Fletcher
On Sat, 2023-12-16 at 00:22 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 7:01 PM David Coppa  wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 6:29 PM  wrote:
> > > 
> > > So they're putting a Wayland in our BSD.
> > > 
> > > I've never used that before.
> > > 
> > > Is a port of cwm planned?
> > 
> > I really don't think so.
> > 
> > But there's hikari, a stacking Wayland compositor heavily inspired
> > by
> > cwm: https://hikari.acmelabs.space/
> > 
> > We might probably have a port of it in our ports tree in the
> > future.
> > 
> > Ciao,
> > David
> > 
> 
> I'm not sure their "Geekfeminism Code of Conduct"
> (https://hikari.acmelabs.space/coc.html) works well with OpenBSD.
> 


You put "Geekfeminism" in the same quotes as "Code of Conduct".. I
suspect you did so for a reason.  "Geekfeminism" does not exist on the
Hikari page at all.

It is the reason that I don't understand.

To be fair, I find it unfortuante that any projet needs to have a Code
of Conduct, but for whatever reason that is the way the world is going.
People are rude against others because of their identity or other
reasons not related to the goals of the project.

I don't thnk I have ever seen anyone from OpenBSD be rude against
anyone because of their idenity.  They will be rude with people who
expect things and don't contribute, but that is unrelated.  There is a
non-subtle and significant difference.

The license of the Hikari project looks (at a quick glance) seems to to
be a 2-clause BSD license.

So why would OpenBSD have issues with this?

You are not a dev, but considering you posted this publicly I am
interested in your response.  What was the reason?

Justin



Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 12:47 AM tux2bsd  wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure their "Geekfeminism Code of Conduct"
> > (https://hikari.acmelabs.space/coc.html) works well with OpenBSD.
>
> Any idiot that adheres gender and race ideologies can get fucked,  they are 
> all societal fire starters.
>
> tux2bsd

Oh no, you are now banned from participating in hikari development!

"Offensive comments related to gender, gender identity and expression,
[...], race, or religion"

combined with:

"The abuse team reserves the right to exclude people from the hikari
community based on their past behavior, including behavior outside
hikari spaces and behavior towards people who are not in the hikari
community."



Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread tux2bsd
> I'm not sure their "Geekfeminism Code of Conduct"
> (https://hikari.acmelabs.space/coc.html) works well with OpenBSD.

Any idiot that adheres gender and race ideologies can get fucked,  they are all 
societal fire starters.

tux2bsd



Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 7:01 PM David Coppa  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 6:29 PM  wrote:
> >
> > So they're putting a Wayland in our BSD.
> >
> > I've never used that before.
> >
> > Is a port of cwm planned?
>
> I really don't think so.
>
> But there's hikari, a stacking Wayland compositor heavily inspired by
> cwm: https://hikari.acmelabs.space/
>
> We might probably have a port of it in our ports tree in the future.
>
> Ciao,
> David
>

I'm not sure their "Geekfeminism Code of Conduct"
(https://hikari.acmelabs.space/coc.html) works well with OpenBSD.



Re: cwm on wayland

2023-12-15 Thread David Coppa
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 6:29 PM  wrote:
>
> So they're putting a Wayland in our BSD.
>
> I've never used that before.
>
> Is a port of cwm planned?

I really don't think so.

But there's hikari, a stacking Wayland compositor heavily inspired by
cwm: https://hikari.acmelabs.space/

We might probably have a port of it in our ports tree in the future.

Ciao,
David