Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote:
 I've looked all over www.openbsd.org.
 Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers?
  (not new to programming)
 Just the bug list?
 Fix something  send diffs?

If you're serious about this, just use OpenBSD intensively.
After a few weeks/months, you'll notice things that will irritate you.

The other thing you should do is read those mailing-lists and follow
instructions. Each time we ask for patch testers.  This is a good way
to help and to get a feel as to how things work.

It's not complicated really. Everyone smart enough to become a developer
soon figures things out by himself.



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote:
 I've looked all over www.openbsd.org.
 Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers?
  (not new to programming)

man style

 Just the bug list?

That's a good start, probably.

 Fix something  send diffs?

As mentioned on these lists multiple times over the years,
yes, that's what you should start doing.

 
  - Jay



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Edd Barrett
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote:
 I've looked all over www.openbsd.org.
 Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers?

Find something missing and implement it.

I find myself sshing to linux boxes to valgrind things, so how about a leak
checker for OpenBSD? And no.. not a valgrind port, somthing our own.

-- 
Best Regards
Edd Barrett

http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote:
 I've looked all over www.openbsd.org.
 Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers?
  (not new to programming)
 Just the bug list?
 Fix something  send diffs?
 
  - Jay

We pride ourselves on good, useful man pages. Reading man pages
reveals many interesting things. And occaisonal problems. A number
of developers started by fixing/updating man pages. Sometimes the
code is broken rather than the man page, and viola you on the water
slide.

 Ken



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Jay K
Ok, thanks all. Later.

 - Jay

 Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 12:14:30 +0100
 From: vex...@gmail.com
 To: jay.kr...@cornell.edu
 CC: misc@openbsd.org
 Subject: Re: developing openbsd?

 On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote:
  I've looked all over www.openbsd.org.
  Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers?

 Find something missing and implement it.

 I find myself sshing to linux boxes to valgrind things, so how about a leak
 checker for OpenBSD? And no.. not a valgrind port, somthing our own.

 --
 Best Regards
 Edd Barrett

 http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Tomas Vavrys
Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly
according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other
Vim plugins do you use?



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote:
 Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly
 according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other
 Vim plugins do you use?

I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim:

set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1
set shiftwidth=8
set softtabstop=8
let c_space_errors=1

That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or
refinements?

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Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Tomas Vavrys
It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/  .vimrc. I
could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all.

2010/8/8 Darrin Chandler dwchand...@stilyagin.com:
 On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote:
 Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly
 according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other
 Vim plugins do you use?

 I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim:

 set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1
 set shiftwidth=8
 set softtabstop=8
 let c_space_errors=1

 That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or
 refinements?

 --
 Darrin Chandler B  B  B  B  B  B | B Phoenix BSD User Group B | B MetaBUG
 dwchand...@stilyagin.com B  | B http://phxbug.org/ B  B  B |
B http://metabug.org/
 http://www.stilyagin.com/ B | B Daemons in the Desert B  | B Global BUG
Federation



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Marco Peereboom
I'd hug you!

On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 05:06:19PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote:
 It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/  .vimrc. I
 could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all.
 
 2010/8/8 Darrin Chandler dwchand...@stilyagin.com:
  On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote:
  Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly
  according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other
  Vim plugins do you use?
 
  I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim:
 
  set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1
  set shiftwidth=8
  set softtabstop=8
  let c_space_errors=1
 
  That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or
  refinements?
 
  --
  Darrin Chandler B  B  B  B  B  B | B Phoenix BSD User Group B | B MetaBUG
  dwchand...@stilyagin.com B  | B http://phxbug.org/ B  B  B |
 B http://metabug.org/
  http://www.stilyagin.com/ B | B Daemons in the Desert B  | B Global BUG
 Federation



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread IƱigo Ortiz de Urbina
I'd love to see such a document available. Depending on the scope of
this documentation effort, it could even be bundled as a package.

On 8/8/10, Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
 It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/  .vimrc. I
 could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all.

 2010/8/8 Darrin Chandler dwchand...@stilyagin.com:
 On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote:
 Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly
 according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other
 Vim plugins do you use?

 I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim:

 set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1
 set shiftwidth=8
 set softtabstop=8
 let c_space_errors=1

 That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or
 refinements?

 --
 Darrin Chandler B  B  B  B  B  B | B Phoenix BSD User Group B | B MetaBUG
 dwchand...@stilyagin.com B  | B http://phxbug.org/ B  B  B |
 B http://metabug.org/
 http://www.stilyagin.com/ B | B Daemons in the Desert B  | B Global BUG
 Federation



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Tomas Vavrys
I can imagine universal OpenBSD VIM settings for programming as a
standard for local Vim programmers. It will make easier so many
things. We should write down all ideas. Key task is to share
experiences during programming with Vim.

It looks like that many developers use cscope, ctags, taglist during
programming.
I use SnipMate for code completion at the moment, because c.vim is
quite complex for me. You need to put big effort to get things work
like you want to if you're not vim expert. I suggest to stick to the
minimalism. We can collect most favourite code snippets and put them
together in universal snipmate config with practical documentation for
other useful settings. There is no need to read 100pages of manual to
become efficient. From a practical point of view you always forget
many things and use only a few key features because you don't have
time to read the whole manual and test all things. I don't want this.
We should put some effort to make it practical and easy from
beginning.

What do think about my suggestion?

2010/8/8 IC1igo Ortiz de Urbina inigoortizdeurb...@gmail.com:
 I'd love to see such a document available. Depending on the scope of
 this documentation effort, it could even be bundled as a package.

 On 8/8/10, Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
 It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/  .vimrc. I
 could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all.

 2010/8/8 Darrin Chandler dwchand...@stilyagin.com:
 On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote:
 Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly
 according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other
 Vim plugins do you use?

 I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim:

 set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1
 set shiftwidth=8
 set softtabstop=8
 let c_space_errors=1

 That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or
 refinements?

 --
 Darrin Chandler B B B B B B B B B B B | B Phoenix BSD User Group B | B
MetaBUG
 dwchand...@stilyagin.com B B | B http://phxbug.org/ B B B B B |
 B http://metabug.org/
 http://www.stilyagin.com/ B | B Daemons in the Desert B B | B Global BUG
 Federation



Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
 It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/  .vimrc. I
 could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all.

cp /usr/local/share/vim/vim72/vimrc_example.vim .vimrc