Re: Is nooSMTPD available anywhere?
June 24, 2022 6:33 AM, "Demi Marie Obenour" wrote: > > Do you by any chance have the golang code you are using anywhere? > unsure I understand the question: if you're meaning the SMTP golang code, I don't have any as I use OpenSMTPD. if you mean other unrelated Golang, it's all on my github :-)
Re: Is nooSMTPD available anywhere?
On 6/23/22 17:52, gil...@poolp.org wrote: > June 23, 2022 9:02 PM, "Simon Harrison" wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 14:54:36 -0400 >> Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> >>> Is nooSMTPD available anywhere? >> >> That's weird. I'm sure it used to be on Gilles github: >> >> https://github.com/poolpOrg >> >> Seems to have been removed. > > Hi, > > Long story short, nooSMTPD (not openbsd's opensmtpd) was a custom version of > OpenSMTPD where I removed > and added stuff that I could not do in OpenBSD for various reasons (legacy or > divergence of opinions), > but I decided not to go on with it and simply accept that OpenSMTPD won't > meet all of my goals. > > There are multiple reasons for that but the main ones: > > a- shortly after, people started looking at the repository, asking for > features, asking me to make the >portable version, and this started looking like a real fork (which it > wasn't) with no benefits: I'd >have to do even more work than before, completely alone, and since I left > due to almost burning out >this was a nope-nope. That is 100% valid. Maintaining an MTA is a LOT of work. > b- it would hurt OpenSMTPD considerably. I was always the most active > developer, partly because I knew >the entire code base and its history but also because I'm a very active > person that works part-time >leaving me many hours to work on pet projects. If I started working on > nooSMTPD during this time, I >would end up creating a fork which OpenSMTPD would be lagging behind... > add to this that I wouldn't >have the constraints of OpenBSD developers (release cycles, base libraries > only or rejected diffs), >and we end up with trees that diverge enough that the OpenSMTPD developers > would not necessarily be >able to bring back stuff from nooSMTPD to their tree. Which one would you > use ? if its nooSMTPD, we >loop back to a- > > c- it would not be nice to OpenBSD / OpenSMTPD developers and we are in good > terms so I have no reason >to put them in an uncomfortable situation with a fork. > > d- I'd rather right code in Golang these days when possible :-p Same here, though Rust is even better in some cases. Go is definitely a much better choice than C when it comes to writing network servers, not least because of security. Do you by any chance have the golang code you are using anywhere? -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) OpenPGP_0xB288B55FFF9C22C1.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Is nooSMTPD available anywhere?
June 23, 2022 9:02 PM, "Simon Harrison" wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 14:54:36 -0400 > Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > >> Is nooSMTPD available anywhere? > > That's weird. I'm sure it used to be on Gilles github: > > https://github.com/poolpOrg > > Seems to have been removed. Hi, Long story short, nooSMTPD (not openbsd's opensmtpd) was a custom version of OpenSMTPD where I removed and added stuff that I could not do in OpenBSD for various reasons (legacy or divergence of opinions), but I decided not to go on with it and simply accept that OpenSMTPD won't meet all of my goals. There are multiple reasons for that but the main ones: a- shortly after, people started looking at the repository, asking for features, asking me to make the portable version, and this started looking like a real fork (which it wasn't) with no benefits: I'd have to do even more work than before, completely alone, and since I left due to almost burning out this was a nope-nope. b- it would hurt OpenSMTPD considerably. I was always the most active developer, partly because I knew the entire code base and its history but also because I'm a very active person that works part-time leaving me many hours to work on pet projects. If I started working on nooSMTPD during this time, I would end up creating a fork which OpenSMTPD would be lagging behind... add to this that I wouldn't have the constraints of OpenBSD developers (release cycles, base libraries only or rejected diffs), and we end up with trees that diverge enough that the OpenSMTPD developers would not necessarily be able to bring back stuff from nooSMTPD to their tree. Which one would you use ? if its nooSMTPD, we loop back to a- c- it would not be nice to OpenBSD / OpenSMTPD developers and we are in good terms so I have no reason to put them in an uncomfortable situation with a fork. d- I'd rather right code in Golang these days when possible :-p Cheers, Gilles
Re: Is nooSMTPD available anywhere?
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 14:54:36 -0400 Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > Is nooSMTPD available anywhere? That's weird. I'm sure it used to be on Gilles github: https://github.com/poolpOrg Seems to have been removed.
