Re: [Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-20 Thread mjpeg
From Steven M. Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 19 Dec 2003: On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. I noticed that for some chapters on the DVD, the average bitrate reported by mplex was almost 50% of the max bitrate! What does this mean? Could you please comment on this? If

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-20 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. I noticed that for some chapters on the DVD, the average bitrate reported by mplex was almost 50% of the max bitrate! What does this Could you please comment on this? If the avg is 50% of the max, does it mean that I can afford to

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-19 Thread Florin Andrei
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 20:23, Steven M. Schultz wrote: You can set the bitrate to 9000 kbits/sec but with a high '-q' the encoder will only use a fraction of the maximum bitrate. Lower -q and watch the encoder come closer to the maximum rate. You set the maximum bitrate and then adjust -q so

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-19 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On 19 Dec 2003, Florin Andrei wrote: You mean that for whole movies ( 1 hour) or for smaller scenes? For the movie as a whole. Shorter scenes will, as you have seen, run up against the limit and there's nothing wrong about that. The guidline often is given as 20% but

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-19 Thread mjpeg
From Steven M. Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18 Dec 2003: You set the maximum bitrate and then adjust -q so that the Average is ~10% lower than the Peak rate. Ok. I noticed that for some chapters on the DVD, the average bitrate reported by mplex was almost 50% of the max bitrate!

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-19 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. I noticed that for some chapters on the DVD, the average bitrate reported by mplex was almost 50% of the max bitrate! What does this mean? Ah, I see my posting made it out - I never saw it come around. After discarding 80 to 90%

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-19 Thread Matto Marjanovic
[a footnote:] ... This particular movie is black and white so the chroma is killed with 'y4mshift -M' (sets U and V to 128). ... mpeg2dec -s -o pgmpipe foo.vob | \ pgmtoy4m -i t -a 10:11 -r 3:1001 | \ y4mshift -M | \ y4mscaler -v 0 -S option=sinc:8 -O

[Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-18 Thread mjpeg
In trying to make a VBR MPEG1, there is a tradeoff between higher filesize/bitrate vs. quality. To get the same visual quality (i.e. no artefacts, no halo around text, etc), is it preferable to increase the bitrate or reduce the -q parameter to mpeg2enc (i.e. increase quality factor)? I just

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Filesize/bitrate vs. quality

2003-12-18 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In trying to make a VBR MPEG1, there is a tradeoff between higher filesize/bitrate vs. quality. That's always true - it's not VCD specific (and it sounds like you are creating a XVCD). To get the same visual quality (i.e.