Re: [mkgmap-dev] Does anyone have a genuine garmin routable map tile that is unlocked?

2009-08-15 Thread Felix Hartmann
Valentijn Sessink wrote: Mark, Mark Burton schreef: Not a basemap, but a real routable tile. I don't have one, but I could buy something, *if* that gives you an unlocked, routable tile. And I'm not sure about the "unlocked" property - if I buy, for example, a bicycle map of the Nether

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Does anyone have a genuine garmin routable map tile that is unlocked?

2009-08-15 Thread Valentijn Sessink
Mark, Mark Burton schreef: > Not a basemap, but a real routable tile. I don't have one, but I could buy something, *if* that gives you an unlocked, routable tile. And I'm not sure about the "unlocked" property - if I buy, for example, a bicycle map of the Netherlands, on SDcard (something I've be

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Garmin Device Routing Options

2009-08-15 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Mark Burton schrieb: >> In the Garmin GPSR (mine is a Etrex Legend HCX) there are several >> options for routing. How are they mapped to mkgmap/OSM features? >> Emergency (???) > > emergency >> Delivery -> psv (?) > > yes After doing some tests on my Etrex Legend HCX I believe that something i

[mkgmap-dev] Does anyone have a genuine garmin routable map tile that is unlocked?

2009-08-15 Thread Mark Burton
Not a basemap, but a real routable tile. It doesn't matter what area it is for. If so, can you please zip it up and send to me or otherwise make it available to download. Cheers, Mark ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Thilo Hannemann
Regarding the manual placement of POI objects: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice says "One feature, one OSM-object Don't place nodes in (equally labelled) areas just to see some icon appear on the map. The renderers will display icons on areas as well and there's no ne

[mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v4] sea polygons

2009-08-15 Thread Christian Gawron
With this version of the patch, the intersection of the bounding box and the landmass does not have to be simply connected as in version 3 of the patch. There are still some "flooded island" in ireland, but I'm pretty sure this is a problem in the multipolygon code this patch relies on (it jus

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Nop
Hi! Mark Burton schrieb: >> I think it's reasonable to make this option the default and only disable it >> by >> request. It should be the common case that one wants pois generated also if >> they are areas. >> >> Should I make a patch for that? > > Personally, I prefer mkgmap to not add stuf

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:07:54PM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote: > Am Samstag 15 August 2009 schrieb Marko Mäkelä: > > Thus, I would say that it makes sense to manually create POIs for all > > areas, at the entrance. Or, if --add-pois-to-areas is to be made the > > default, it should not add duplicate

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Hanno Böck wrote: > > I just noted with a garmin map from kleineisel.de that my local supermarket is > not listed. > > The reason is that it's an area, not a point. I think this is caused by not > applying --add-pois-to-areas (?) > > I think it's reasonable to make

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Mark Burton
Hi Hanno, > I just noted with a garmin map from kleineisel.de that my local supermarket > is > not listed. > > The reason is that it's an area, not a point. I think this is caused by not > applying --add-pois-to-areas (?) > > I think it's reasonable to make this option the default and only d

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Samstag 15 August 2009 schrieb Marko Mäkelä: > Thus, I would say that it makes sense to manually create POIs for all > areas, at the entrance. Or, if --add-pois-to-areas is to be made the > default, it should not add duplicate POIs if there already is a POI nearby > with the same name. If ther

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:30:13PM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote: > I just noted with a garmin map from kleineisel.de that my local supermarket > is > not listed. > > The reason is that it's an area, not a point. I think this is caused by not > applying --add-pois-to-areas (?) > > I think it's reaso

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Steve Ratcliffe
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 09:16:36PM +0200, Elrond wrote: > In the long run, we should consider, if this should be > somehow modifiable by the style. Either by letting the > style say "Don't go and create a POI" or the other way > round. It is already possible for a style to set options. All we ha

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Elrond
Hi, Generally, I'd say "Yes, we should make this the default". In the long run, we should consider, if this should be somehow modifiable by the style. Either by letting the style say "Don't go and create a POI" or the other way round. I don't have a particular opinion on this. I just think, we s

[mkgmap-dev] Make --add-pois-to-areas default?

2009-08-15 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, I just noted with a garmin map from kleineisel.de that my local supermarket is not listed. The reason is that it's an area, not a point. I think this is caused by not applying --add-pois-to-areas (?) I think it's reasonable to make this option the default and only disable it by request. I

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Last level not empty, why not anymore?

2009-08-15 Thread Felix Hartmann
Steve Ratcliffe wrote: Hi Felix Opening the .img in gpsmapedit shows me that level 5 is the last level at resolution 15. Now having an empty overview map and seeing motorways and coastline in level 15 in Mapsource I have to assume that the last level is not empty (otherwise I cou

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [mkgmap-svn] Commit: r1135: Patch by Rudi for problems with multipolygons

2009-08-15 Thread Steve Ratcliffe
> Problem 3: > Small multipolygons are rendered correctly but I have a problem with larger > multipolygons. The inner holes are visible at low zoom levels, but they > disappear if I zoom in. I don't know if this is a problem of the Garmin > software or if this is an effect of a filter in mkgmap. >

[mkgmap-dev] Commit: r1135: Patch by Rudi for problems with multipolygons

2009-08-15 Thread svn commit
Version 1135 was commited by steve on 2009-08-15 18:35:33 +0100 (Sat, 15 Aug 2009) BRANCH: multipolygon Patch by Rudi for problems with multipolygons as listed below. Problem 3 may be caused by one of the smoothing/slitting filters and so maybe better solved another way. Problem 1: Simple hol

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Last level not empty, why not anymore?

2009-08-15 Thread Steve Ratcliffe
Hi Felix >Opening the .img in gpsmapedit shows me that level 5 is the last level at >resolution 15. Now having an empty overview map and seeing motorways and >coastline in level 15 in Mapsource I have to assume that the last level is >not empty (otherwise I could not see it in Map

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Another splitter bug

2009-08-15 Thread Chris Miller
JO> Is there a XML schema definition for the 0.6 XML dumps? A bit of JO> googling showed one for the 0.5 api but I didn't see anything for JO> 0.6. JO> If we had an XML schema definition a separate XML parser/validator JO> could be used to check inputs. I can't say I've looked for one though I'd

[mkgmap-dev] Commit: r1134: May as well complete the job of validating the values.

2009-08-15 Thread svn commit
Version 1134 was commited by steve on 2009-08-15 16:13:34 +0100 (Sat, 15 Aug 2009) BRANCH: multipolygon May as well complete the job of validating the values. returned by findCpa(). ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Another splitter bug

2009-08-15 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Chris Miller wrote: > That doesn't really buy us much unfortunately, given the way the parsing > works the checks need to be scattered about in various places (otherwise > a separate validation pass would be required, taking even longer. I think > a separate validat

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] Merge similar lines and ways

2009-08-15 Thread Thilo Hannemann
Hi Mark, Am 15.08.2009 um 13:45 schrieb Mark Burton: > However, looking at the code it seems to me that the merging happens > after StyledConverter.addRoad() is called and that is where the way > lengths are limited. So you either have to do the merging earlier, or > you need to add a constraint

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] Merge similar lines and ways

2009-08-15 Thread Mark Burton
Hi Chris, > Are all these patches which are announced on the list as > [PATCH vx] included in the mkgmap-latest? > > If not - where can I download the patched versions? No, it's up to the individual developer to "mix and match" whatever patches they wish to try. They have to be applied to trunk

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] Merge similar lines and ways

2009-08-15 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
>> Please test and complain ;). Note that the argument "--merge-lines" is >> needed for the merging to take place. > > Are there patches in the latest? What I meant: Are all these patches which are announced on the list as [PATCH vx] included in the mkgmap-latest? If not - where can I downloa

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] Merge similar lines and ways

2009-08-15 Thread Mark Burton
Thilo, > Am 15.08.2009 um 13:04 schrieb Mark Burton: > > > Will this cause a problem with ways that have been split on purpose > > because they are longer than the maximum allowed arc length? > > No, not at all. The reason is that the merging of the ways is done > before they are split again

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] Merge similar lines and ways

2009-08-15 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Thilo Hannemann schrieb: > Please test and complain ;). Note that the argument "--merge-lines" is > needed for the merging to take place. Are there patches in the latest? Chris ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mk

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] Merge similar lines and ways

2009-08-15 Thread Thilo Hannemann
Am 15.08.2009 um 13:04 schrieb Mark Burton: > Will this cause a problem with ways that have been split on purpose > because they are longer than the maximum allowed arc length? No, not at all. The reason is that the merging of the ways is done before they are split again if necessary. The net e

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Inter-tile routing failures - not all our fault?

2009-08-15 Thread Chris Miller
MB> I haven't the faintest clue what could be the issue here so until we MB> get some hint as to what the problem could be, I'm ignoring it. MB> I simply don't have spare time to dream up possible reasons why MB> this problem exists. Can't say I blame you, doesn't sound like an easy one to get to

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] Merge similar lines and ways

2009-08-15 Thread Mark Burton
Hi Thilo, > The attached will merge lines that are similar* after styling. It is > activated by the switch "--merge-lines". > > As there are less way fragments, the Douglas-Peucker filter will work > better and the routing should improve somewhat, because the ways will > be longer and the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Another splitter bug

2009-08-15 Thread Chris Miller
That doesn't really buy us much unfortunately, given the way the parsing works the checks need to be scattered about in various places (otherwise a separate validation pass would be required, taking even longer. I think a separate validation step is outside the scope of the splitter). Experienc

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Inter-tile routing failures - not all our fault?

2009-08-15 Thread Mark Burton
Hi Chris, > Sorry to say I too have tried to find a problem with the Garmin maps and > failed. No matter what combination of tile crossings, it always seems to do > the right thing. I probably tried 20-30 combinations of routes across various > tile borders. Is that a big enough sample size to

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Inter-tile routing failures - not all our fault?

2009-08-15 Thread Chris Miller
Hey Mark, MB> Is that using mapsource and if so, what version is that? Yes MapSource, v6.15.6 MB> The picture was corrupted, I could not see it. Damn, probably something to do with this NNTP client of mine :( Try here: http://redyeti.net/routing.png Chris __

[mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] Merge similar lines and ways

2009-08-15 Thread Thilo Hannemann
The attached will merge lines that are similar* after styling. It is activated by the switch "--merge-lines". As there are less way fragments, the Douglas-Peucker filter will work better and the routing should improve somewhat, because the ways will be longer and the routing algorithm won't

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Another splitter bug

2009-08-15 Thread FlaBot
cant you put in the check as an option. With the -check_for_bad_date all data will be past in the splitter for a growing number of know xml bugs and without the check .. you check will be done an the app will be faster ? lg Dirk ___ mkgmap-dev mailing l

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Inter-tile routing failures - not all our fault?

2009-08-15 Thread Mark Burton
Hi Chris, > Sorry to say I too have tried to find a problem with the Garmin maps and > failed. No matter what combination of tile crossings, it always seems to do > the right thing. I probably tried 20-30 combinations of routes across various > tile borders. Is that a big enough sample size to

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Another splitter bug

2009-08-15 Thread Paul Ortyl
2009/8/15 Chris Miller : > Hi Paul, > > This is because the .osm file you are splitting has a node with no 'lat' > attribute. As far as I'm aware this shouldn't happen; something is probably > wrong with your .osm file? I downloaded the europe.osm file a few hours after > you posted your message an

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Another splitter bug

2009-08-15 Thread Chris Miller
Hi Paul, This is because the .osm file you are splitting has a node with no 'lat' attribute. As far as I'm aware this shouldn't happen; something is probably wrong with your .osm file? I downloaded the europe.osm file a few hours after you posted your message and it processes without a problem.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Changed build.xml for DEM generation

2009-08-15 Thread Clinton Gladstone
On Aug 15, 2009, at 7:54, maning sambale wrote: > And then used this build.xml for mkgmap: > > man...@cumingi:~/osm/routable_garmin/mkgmap/trunk$ ant dist > Buildfile: build.xml It also occurs to me that if you are using the build.xml file from Jörg, I assume you have to adjust the path to the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Changed build.xml for DEM generation

2009-08-15 Thread Clinton Gladstone
On Aug 15, 2009, at 7:54, maning sambale wrote: > package com.sun.media.jai.codec does not exist >[javac] import com.sun.media.jai.codec.*; Hm... this sounds a lot like javac cannot find the jai jar files. Are you sure you put the jai stuff in a directory which javac can find? (I've insta

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v4] - min arc length fixes

2009-08-15 Thread Clinton Gladstone
On Aug 14, 2009, at 14:44, Greg Troxel wrote: > Also my test map (in script as well) works on the garmin but crashes > roadtrip. You know, I tried this too, and noticed that the test map ( test- map:all-elements) also crashes Mapsource. Also in my tests, gmapi- builder.py displayed an "Unknown