Re: Proposal for Property Accessors

2013-01-06 Thread BGB
On 1/6/2013 6:52 AM, Noctarius wrote: > Am 06.01.2013 11:35, schrieb BGB: >> On 1/6/2013 3:19 AM, Noctarius wrote: >>> Am 06.01.2013 00:44, schrieb John Rose: >>>> On Jan 5, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Remi Forax wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think I prefer

Re: Proposal for Property Accessors

2013-01-06 Thread BGB
On 1/6/2013 3:19 AM, Noctarius wrote: > Am 06.01.2013 00:44, schrieb John Rose: >> On Jan 5, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Remi Forax wrote: >> >>> I think I prefer a more general mechanism that ask javac to >>> replace all access to fields (or methods) for a given class, >>> insert an invokedynamic instead a

Re: Proposal for Property Accessors

2013-01-05 Thread BGB
On 1/5/2013 2:20 PM, Noctarius wrote: > Am 05.01.2013 20:44, schrieb BGB: >> On 1/5/2013 12:37 PM, Noctarius wrote: >>> Am 05.01.2013 19:15, schrieb BGB: >>>> On 1/5/2013 10:17 AM, Noctarius wrote: >>>>> Ok I took some time to make a deeper introducti

Re: Proposal for Property Accessors

2013-01-05 Thread BGB
On 1/5/2013 12:37 PM, Noctarius wrote: > Am 05.01.2013 19:15, schrieb BGB: >> On 1/5/2013 10:17 AM, Noctarius wrote: >>> Ok I took some time to make a deeper introduction in what I >>> imagine to do: >>> https://www.sourceprojects.org/default/2013/01/05

Re: Proposal for Property Accessors

2013-01-05 Thread BGB
On 1/5/2013 10:17 AM, Noctarius wrote: > Ok I took some time to make a deeper introduction in what I > imagine to do: > https://www.sourceprojects.org/default/2013/01/05/135739572.html > > As mentioned before it would be great if someone is interested in > the topic and wants to help. well, I

Re: JEP 169: Value Objects

2012-11-07 Thread BGB
On 11/7/2012 7:02 PM, Remi Forax wrote: > On 11/07/2012 11:30 PM, BGB wrote: >> On 11/7/2012 4:15 PM, Vitaly Davidovich wrote: >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Nice to see this effort moving forward. While reading the JEP, I >>> can't help but think how com

Re: JEP 169: Value Objects

2012-11-07 Thread BGB
On 11/7/2012 4:15 PM, Vitaly Davidovich wrote: Hi John, Nice to see this effort moving forward. While reading the JEP, I can't help but think how complicated this sounds for JVM implementors. Is introducing bytecodes and new value type representation definitely a nonstarter? I'm thinking a

Re: Are java.lang classes better served by the JVM?

2012-10-01 Thread BGB
On 10/1/2012 1:26 AM, Mark Roos wrote: From Charles Have you taken a look at jnr-x86asm? No, but I just bookmarked it to talk a look. I had been looking at JNA as a way to connect to native libs. Is there some way for me to locate/search for the jRuby native handler code that uses jnr? I

Re: Are java.lang classes better served by the JVM?

2012-09-28 Thread BGB
underneath, they were largely built on the same core machinery. or such... Sent from my phone On Sep 28, 2012 5:55 PM, "BGB" <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 9/28/2012 4:10 PM, Vitaly Davidovich wrote: Since we're in wishful thinking territory now :), the

Re: Are java.lang classes better served by the JVM?

2012-09-28 Thread BGB
On 9/28/2012 4:10 PM, Vitaly Davidovich wrote: Since we're in wishful thinking territory now :), the two things I'd really like are: 1) value/struct types (i.e. avoid heap and be able to pack data closer together). I don't how much we can rely on EA. 2) more auto-vectorization I think 2 i

Re: thinking about proper implementation of tail calls

2012-09-02 Thread BGB
On 9/1/2012 6:30 PM, Mark Roos wrote: I am looking to learn something here that I haven't seen in my code yet. John mentioned Suppose you are compiling your favorite high-level language to the JVM, and you start running into the various size limits in class files To which ther

Re: Google Dart

2011-10-11 Thread BGB
On 10/11/2011 2:03 AM, Rémi Forax wrote: > On 10/10/2011 08:58 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: >> I agree it would be an interesting language on the JVM. It may be the >> "dynamic Java" I've wanted to make for a long time, with the added >> bonus of optional static types. >> >> This could almost b

Re: Google Dart

2011-10-11 Thread BGB
On 10/10/2011 8:42 PM, BGB wrote: On 10/10/2011 6:56 PM, John Rose wrote: On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Krystal Mok wrote: It's cute when you can find DartEntry::InvokeDynamic(...) in Dart VM's code [1] :-) (Just for fun; doesn't imply any connection with JVM's invok

Re: Google Dart

2011-10-10 Thread BGB
On 10/10/2011 6:56 PM, John Rose wrote: On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Krystal Mok wrote: It's cute when you can find DartEntry::InvokeDynamic(...) in Dart VM's code [1] :-) (Just for fun; doesn't imply any connection with JVM's invokedynamic) It's not derivative, and not very surprising to me

Re: funny characters in identifiers?

2010-12-31 Thread BGB
On 12/31/2010 2:25 PM, Per Bothner wrote: > On 12/28/2010 01:58 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Per Bothner wrote: >>> Is there a plan/consensus for how to handle "illegal" characters >>> in identifiers? I'm primarily interested in the bytecode level, >>> no

Re: Source Code to Build invokedynamic.jar

2008-12-10 Thread BGB
(sorry, I am not sure if this belongs on-list or not...). - Original Message - From: "John Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Da Vinci Machine Project" Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: Source Code to Build invokedynamic.jar > On Dec 10

Re: Source Code to Build invokedynamic.jar

2008-12-10 Thread BGB
pardon my ignorance, but is there any plan to allow dynamic slot/field access?... ok, I am starting out just implementing my own VM with little familiarity with this framework in general (at this point I have little idea if it will actually be compatible), my tweak was partly to add the abilit

ok, req info, 'invokedynamic' and typesystem, ...

2008-10-19 Thread BGB
so, this is the question thus far: which particular idea of invokedynamic is most likely to be used? from what I can gather, one plan is to use opcode 186 with a layout and args the same as invokeinterface. informally, I have assumed this idea thus far. mention was also given of using invokeinte

Re: greetings here...

2008-10-12 Thread BGB
sorry again, just more me and ideas... - Original Message - From: "BGB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: greetings here... > well, ok, I will say I am new to this list, but am hoping for interesting > conversations. > s

greetings here...

2008-10-12 Thread BGB
well, ok, I will say I am new to this list, but am hoping for interesting conversations. sorry if in being new here, I am being an ignorant troll. main reason: well, mostly I am doing "my own thing", but if possible would like to be operating within the confines of 'the community'. I will admi