Re: Google Dart

2011-10-11 Thread Krystal Mok
Variance in Dart somehow bears a problem similar to the one in Java's array: http://try-dart-lang.appspot.com/s/qAoU On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Rémi Forax wrote: > On 10/10/2011 09:51 AM, Marcus Lagergren wrote: > > FYI, > > > > Google Dart now has a twitter account : > > https://twitter.c

Re: Google Dart

2011-10-11 Thread Rémi Forax
On 10/11/2011 09:08 AM, Krystal Mok wrote: Variance in Dart somehow bears a problem similar to the one in Java's array: http://try-dart-lang.appspot.com/s/qAoU The dartboard don't do any type checking at all. But yes, reading the doc it seems that generics are covariant and contravariant. R

Re: dyn.js - invokedynamic-based js implementation

2011-10-11 Thread Rémi Forax
On 10/11/2011 12:22 AM, John Rose wrote: > On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Douglas Campos wrote: > >> Hello mlvm friends, just a heads up that dyn.js is released at >> https://github.com/dynjs/dyn.js >> >> feedback is more than welcome :) > Congratulations on getting this working... > > Nice, crunchy

Re: Google Dart

2011-10-11 Thread BGB
On 10/10/2011 8:42 PM, BGB wrote: On 10/10/2011 6:56 PM, John Rose wrote: On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Krystal Mok wrote: It's cute when you can find DartEntry::InvokeDynamic(...) in Dart VM's code [1] :-) (Just for fun; doesn't imply any connection with JVM's invokedynamic) It's not deriva

Re: Google Dart

2011-10-11 Thread Rémi Forax
On 10/10/2011 08:58 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > I agree it would be an interesting language on the JVM. It may be the > "dynamic Java" I've wanted to make for a long time, with the added > bonus of optional static types. > > This could almost be a weekend project atop invokedynamic. The typ

Re: dyn.js - invokedynamic-based js implementation

2011-10-11 Thread Douglas Campos
> If John plays the good guy, I will play the bad one :) I really appreciate both - There's tons of things to learn :) > > You should get rid of all the scope stuff for local variables. > One var in Javascript should be one local variable on the Java stack. > (if you only implement the strict mod

Re: dyn.js - invokedynamic-based js implementation

2011-10-11 Thread Attila Szegedi
Adding some thoughts of my own… On Oct 11, 2011, at 1:00 AM, Rémi Forax wrote: > And at the end, all predefined Javascript objects should be re-written > in Javascript, > with some native calls to Java but it will be easier for providing the > core API. > By example, for javascript Number, it s

Re: Google Dart

2011-10-11 Thread BGB
On 10/11/2011 2:03 AM, Rémi Forax wrote: > On 10/10/2011 08:58 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: >> I agree it would be an interesting language on the JVM. It may be the >> "dynamic Java" I've wanted to make for a long time, with the added >> bonus of optional static types. >> >> This could almost b

Re: Help with JIT talk for tomorrow

2011-10-11 Thread Martijn Verburg
Hi all, FYI - I checked with Georges Saab and he thinks there was simply an outage at Santa Clara. Let me know if the page is still down! There is a longer term plan to shift things off the older infrastructure, details TBA. Cheers, Martijn On 9 October 2011 21:59, Krystal Mok wrote: > On Mon

Re: Google Dart

2011-10-11 Thread William ML Leslie
Unfortunately, this thread has been a little off-topic for a while now. I don't think there is a good single forum for "let's complain about Dart design decisions", and it probably isn't useful to do so, as every person I've spoken to on the subject has something completely different that they dis