Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing MobileFrontend from Gather dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Jon Robson
Exactly. Purely technical. From an outsiders perspective it makes little difference - the feature will still look and behave the same.. To be honest the easiest thing to do would be to package our code and put it in core, which is what VisualEditor did with oojs ui - but having two libraries side

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing MobileFrontend from Gather dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
I think it is a technical detail Moiz and Dan, no decoupling from the wikipedia ecosystem. The idea (I think) is to make Gather more independent of Mobile frontend so that it can work seamlessly in Desktop when the time comes and in the way extract valuable common code into library/core so that ot

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing MobileFrontend from Gather dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Dan Garry
Given that your target audience for this project right now is Wikipedia readers, what are the advantages to those users of removing the MobileFrontend dependency from Gather? I'm unclear on this point right now. Dan On 13 April 2015 at 12:10, Jon Robson wrote: > I did a quick spike [1] to work

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing MobileFrontend from Gather dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Moiz Syed
I agree with Joaquin. What are the benefits of decoupling? On Wednesday, April 15, 2015, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < jhernan...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > I don't see many advantages between the sub-module approach and just > leaving it in MobileFrontend and have Gather depend passively on a part of >

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing MobileFrontend from Gather dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
I don't see many advantages between the sub-module approach and just leaving it in MobileFrontend and have Gather depend passively on a part of MobileFrontend. I mean, the isolation can make us think that they are decoupled but in reality they will still be highly coupled, and we'll need to be as c

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing MobileFrontend from Gather dependencies

2015-04-13 Thread Jon Robson
No. Explicitly not. This would just be folding our code out into a sub module. The point is to remove dependencies! :) We dismantled it because code for templating when into core. On 13 Apr 2015 12:41 pm, "Bahodir Mansurov" wrote: > Essentially, does that mean we want to re-create Mantle? If so,

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing MobileFrontend from Gather dependencies

2015-04-13 Thread Bahodir Mansurov
Essentially, does that mean we want to re-create Mantle? If so, we should consider the reasons why we dismantled it. > On Apr 13, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > > I did a quick spike [1] to work out how Gather could stop depending on > MobileFrontend. > > Essentially problems come into

[WikimediaMobile] Removing MobileFrontend from Gather dependencies

2015-04-13 Thread Jon Robson
I did a quick spike [1] to work out how Gather could stop depending on MobileFrontend. Essentially problems come into 2 categories: 1) Finding a place for Gather in the desktop skin and addressing styling issues in desktop skins (I am working on these and don't see any major blockers here). I thi