Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Thanks, Luis! A search for Barack Obama surfaces a news carousel of AMPed articles that push us down significantly (see link below on a mobile device). Greater web speeds on mobile overall are a good thing for internet users and put pressure on us to move fast or be punished. Since I know

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Volker Eckl wrote: > Google will give an introduction on AMP at SFHTML5 Meetup on 23 Oct: > http://www.meetup.com/de/sfhtml5/events/219966898/ > > I'm in. > FWIW, Google appears to be serious about this:

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

I'd love to go but won't be here. Let us know what you find out Volker. I'd personally be interested in what their answer is to "should wikipedia adopt this (and why)" On 12 Oct 2015 12:51 pm, "Volker Eckl" wrote: > Google will give an introduction on AMP at SFHTML5 Meetup

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Google will give an introduction on AMP at SFHTML5 Meetup on 23 Oct: http://www.meetup.com/de/sfhtml5/events/219966898/ I'm in. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Jon Katz wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < > jhernan...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

I've been checking this out and I have a few thoughts I'd like to share (basically, what Bryan said): - This feels like google's attempt to be again the hub for a big part of the web, to gather more information and data for it's ad business. True, anybody could spin up a amp cache

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Toby Negrin wrote: > Hi Luis -- > > I honestly don't see a lot of difference between Google, Twitter and > Facebook, since they are all ad supported entities with a fiscal > responsibility to track their users and sell the data. Apple's a

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < jhernan...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > If you really wanted to, you can subset what you send to mobile browsers > and get the same benefits (provided you use a really good CDN). I think this announcement + the transcoding work Google is

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Can we start a proposal to make all mobile websites look like 8-bit video games? That should be pretty performant ;-) Humor aside, just want to +1 this discussion, has been very insightful for me both in terms of making me aware of this proposal by Google and breaking it down pretty thoroughly.

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Cool. Pine On Oct 8, 2015 8:05 AM, "Jon Katz" wrote: > FYI. Google just announced an open source project to create a speedier > framework for mobile browsing. It might be worth looking at what they're > doing: > > From: > >

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Best big-picture article I saw on it last night was http://www.niemanlab.org/2015/10/get-ampd-heres-what-publishers-need-to-know-about-googles-new-plan-to-speed-up-your-website/ On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Jon Katz wrote: > FYI. Google just announced an open source

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Thanks Bryan and Pine. My feeling is that there are many many new interfaces and form factors emerging right now and we should be cautious about adoption. For example Facebook's instant articles, apple news and even snapchat have similar offerings the AMP. They all seem to be focusing on article

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Toby - I'm generally 1000% on-board with slow follower for anything user-facing. The only reason I might make an exception here is because the competitors you mention are all pretty awful for the web generally, and this has uptake already from Google and Twitter. (Two isn't great, but two + slim

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Hi Luis -- I honestly don't see a lot of difference between Google, Twitter and Facebook, since they are all ad supported entities with a fiscal responsibility to track their users and sell the data. Apple's a bit different on the surface since they have a different business model. I agree that