[mochikit] MochiKit Development

2007-07-18 Thread tobyclemson

Hi,

I was just wondering whether anyone knew the status of the MochiKit
project - is it still being developed beyond bugfixes or has
development come to a halt. I was using it last year when I was a
Systems Development Intern and I'd like to use it in some personal
projects but if development is not going to continue I might switch to
something different with similar capabilities.

Thanks,
Toby


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[mochikit] Re: MochiKit Development

2007-07-18 Thread Thomas Hervé



On 18 juil, 17:16, Jason Bunting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I *am* curious as to the effort to get us to an official '1.4' release -
 seemed like there was a bit of momentum a few weeks/months back to get all
 bugs fixed and get it shipped, but then it seemed to die.

It's all about voluntary work, so anything can happen :).

Anyway I closed 2 bugs and did a bit of cleaning tonight. There's
still one issue (http://trac.mochikit.com/ticket/248) but I don't
manage to reproduce it and it doesn't seem very important. I also
moved Controls.js out of trunk, in the autocompleter branch, until
someone decides to revive it.

--
Thomas


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[mochikit] Re: MochiKit Development

2007-07-18 Thread Beau Hartshorne

On 18-Jul-07, at 1:42 PM, machineghost wrote:

 But Mochikit is a WONDERFUL library.  It's better than any other JS
 library I've worked with, and I've tried a few.  So I (and I imagine,
 many others in the Mochikit community) would like to be able to user
 the library with confidence that doing so will not screw me in the
 end.  This is why I believe active development is important for
 Mochikit (as it is for any non-for-profit software library).

I think you can rely on us to fix MochiKit problems we experience  
with our commercial software. There's not much overhead for you to  
isolate and fix problems in JavaScript. I don't think it's  
unreasonable to ask that you just submit a patch if you find  
something broken or lacking. If the patch is good, it's likely we'll  
apply it to MochiKit pretty quickly.

Beau

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[mochikit] Re: MochiKit Development

2007-07-18 Thread Bob Ippolito

On 7/18/07, Jason Bunting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I *am* curious as to the effort to get us to an official '1.4' release -
 seemed like there was a bit of momentum a few weeks/months back to get all
 bugs fixed and get it shipped, but then it seemed to die.

I think that most or all of the bug fixes are done, IIRC it's a matter
of auditing everything and making sure the docs are good. I've been
really busy, and since MochiKit works as-is for us (svn trunk
obviously doesn't bother me) I haven't needed to devote much time to
it.

I understand that this bothers some people, but I didn't develop
MochiKit to do consulting and my company doesn't really do anything
that would benefit from MochiKit being more popular. I also don't need
a job and I haven't seen any AJAX conferences in interesting locations
lately ;)

 Other than that, I think MK is near-perfect and find it interesting how
 people seem to feel that if a product/technology/etc. isn't constantly being
 developed, it is somehow not that great or not worth using; if MochiKit
 fulfills the measure of its creation (i.e. if its current state meets the
 goals set out for its original design/purpose), then why does it need to be
 continually developed? Some things just mature and are then good enough
 unless major bugs pop up.

That's more or less how I feel about it. I do plan on getting to a 1.4
release, but I've got all of these other internal releases to worry
about before that happens :)

-bob

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[mochikit] Re: MochiKit Development

2007-07-18 Thread Kevin Triplett

 Any developer who has been in this business for any length of time
 should no better than to blindly use a library, no matter how cool,
 unless:
 A) they expect it to be actively developed in the forseeable future
 B) they don't ever expect to want a new version of the library

Just my 2 cents -- I get the distinct impression that the core development team 
uses MK in their commercial software, so they're motivated to patch the code as 
browsers change and strong user expectations develop. I would much rather MK 
stay lightweight and tight than bloat into some behemoth that offers 100 ways 
to do the same thing because someone thought it would be better to do it this 
other way. Look at Windows(tm) for a shining example of active development.

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