Re: [mochikit] Does anyone use this?

2017-05-26 Thread Chris Snyder 
Um, I still use it daily, on projects new and old. It gets the job done, and 
the logo makes me happy.

I charge extra if a client insists on jQuery. 

> On May 25, 2017, at 11:04 PM, Bob Ippolito  wrote:
> 
> I don't think anyone is building anything new on MochiKit at this point. We 
> sure did pioneer a lot of stuff people are doing today over a decade ago, but 
> frankly all of the ideas are really just from other places outside the 
> browser :)
> 
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 20:01 Chaz Gatian  wrote:
>> I stumbled upon MochiKit for the first time tonight, and it completely blew 
>> my mind.
>> 
>> I started web development eight years ago, and have never heard of such a 
>> tool. It's so interesting to read the blogs, and issues from the past. From 
>> what I can tell this library seems like the first framework to try to solve 
>> all the different browser quirks, something I always thought jQuery was the 
>> first to accomplish. But now having learned about this framework, I might be 
>> VERY wrong!
>> 
>> If anyone still frequents this group please say something, I'm curious to 
>> know if anyone is still using this in applications today.
>> 
>> -Chaz
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Re: [mochikit] Does anyone use this?

2017-05-26 Thread Bob Ippolito 
MochiKit was started specifically because Prototype didn't suit my needs
and didn't have sufficient docs or tests :)

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 23:56 Arnar Birgisson  wrote:

> Prototype was one of the main contenders towards the end, before jQuery
> took over. When I started using mochi it was between it and mootools
> however (winter 2005-2006). jQuery, and I think Prototype as well, came
> later. I distinctly remember picking mochikit because of its documentation
> and module structure.
>
> Must say thanks to Bob, Thomas, and Per for putting it out and
> maintaining. It was an enormous value in my work back then, and I'm sure
> that code is still running at my old company.
>
> ab
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:32 PM troels knak-nielsen <
> tro...@knak-nielsen.dk> wrote:
>
>> Whoa. Blast from the past.
>>
>> Mochi was way ahead of the curve 10 years ago. I used it last around
>> 2009. At that point jquery had sort of taken the position, as I remember it.
>>
>> For sake of a bit of code archeology, there were definitely other tool
>> kits even before Mochi. I think xb (xbrowser?) was one of my go-to staples
>> for a while.
>>
>> T
>>
>> On Fri, 26 May 2017 at 05.01, Chaz Gatian 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I stumbled upon MochiKit for the first time tonight, and it completely
>>> blew my mind.
>>>
>>> I started web development eight years ago, and have never heard of such
>>> a tool. It's so interesting to read the blogs, and issues from the past.
>>> From what I can tell this library seems like the first framework to try to
>>> solve all the different browser quirks, something I always thought jQuery
>>> was the first to accomplish. But now having learned about this framework, I
>>> might be *VERY *wrong!
>>>
>>> If anyone still frequents this group please say something, I'm curious
>>> to know if anyone is still using this in applications today.
>>>
>>> -Chaz
>>>
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Re: [mochikit] Does anyone use this?

2017-05-26 Thread Arnar Birgisson 
Indeed:
https://github.com/google/closure-library/blob/master/closure/goog/dom/dom.js#L16-L17

So I guess mochikit lives at my new employer too!

ab

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Chaz Gatian 
wrote:

> Sounds like there was quite a vibrant community of developers consuming
>>> the framework. I loved digging through the source code.
>>
>>
> I actually stumbled upon this while viewing the JavaScript source in
> Google Photos.  Surprised to see such an old web framework is still used in
> portions of the latest websites.
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Re: [mochikit] Does anyone use this?

2017-05-26 Thread Chaz Gatian 

>
> Sounds like there was quite a vibrant community of developers consuming 
>> the framework. I loved digging through the source code.
>
>
I actually stumbled upon this while viewing the JavaScript source in Google 
Photos.  Surprised to see such an old web framework is still used in 
portions of the latest websites.

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Re: [mochikit] Does anyone use this?

2017-05-26 Thread Simon Forster 

> On 26 May 2017, at 07:55, Arnar Birgisson  wrote:
> 
> Must say thanks to Bob, Thomas, and Per for putting it out and maintaining. 
> It was an enormous value in my work back then,

Ditto.

> and I'm sure that code is still running at my old company.

The code eventually got retired but it hung in there for a long time.

[S]

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Re: [mochikit] Does anyone use this?

2017-05-26 Thread Arnar Birgisson 
Prototype was one of the main contenders towards the end, before jQuery
took over. When I started using mochi it was between it and mootools
however (winter 2005-2006). jQuery, and I think Prototype as well, came
later. I distinctly remember picking mochikit because of its documentation
and module structure.

Must say thanks to Bob, Thomas, and Per for putting it out and maintaining.
It was an enormous value in my work back then, and I'm sure that code is
still running at my old company.

ab

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:32 PM troels knak-nielsen 
wrote:

> Whoa. Blast from the past.
>
> Mochi was way ahead of the curve 10 years ago. I used it last around 2009.
> At that point jquery had sort of taken the position, as I remember it.
>
> For sake of a bit of code archeology, there were definitely other tool
> kits even before Mochi. I think xb (xbrowser?) was one of my go-to staples
> for a while.
>
> T
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2017 at 05.01, Chaz Gatian  wrote:
>
>> I stumbled upon MochiKit for the first time tonight, and it completely
>> blew my mind.
>>
>> I started web development eight years ago, and have never heard of such a
>> tool. It's so interesting to read the blogs, and issues from the past. From
>> what I can tell this library seems like the first framework to try to solve
>> all the different browser quirks, something I always thought jQuery was the
>> first to accomplish. But now having learned about this framework, I might
>> be *VERY *wrong!
>>
>> If anyone still frequents this group please say something, I'm curious to
>> know if anyone is still using this in applications today.
>>
>> -Chaz
>>
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Re: [mochikit] Does anyone use this?

2017-05-26 Thread troels knak-nielsen 
Whoa. Blast from the past.

Mochi was way ahead of the curve 10 years ago. I used it last around 2009.
At that point jquery had sort of taken the position, as I remember it.

For sake of a bit of code archeology, there were definitely other tool kits
even before Mochi. I think xb (xbrowser?) was one of my go-to staples for a
while.

T
On Fri, 26 May 2017 at 05.01, Chaz Gatian  wrote:

> I stumbled upon MochiKit for the first time tonight, and it completely
> blew my mind.
>
> I started web development eight years ago, and have never heard of such a
> tool. It's so interesting to read the blogs, and issues from the past. From
> what I can tell this library seems like the first framework to try to solve
> all the different browser quirks, something I always thought jQuery was the
> first to accomplish. But now having learned about this framework, I might
> be *VERY *wrong!
>
> If anyone still frequents this group please say something, I'm curious to
> know if anyone is still using this in applications today.
>
> -Chaz
>
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