Re: [tdf-moderators] moderation does not work?
Hi Florian, *, Am 27.10.2011 11:28 schrieb Florian Effenberger: James Wilde wrote on 2011-10-27 08:08: I tried to keep it private by putting the list address in bcc, but that, of course, didn't work. So, yes, I vote for private. We discuss individual posters in here and our method of handling different kinds of posts. ok, the problem then is that it will be a toally new list with a new address @lists.documentfoundation.org, since I have to move from mlmmj to Mailman in order to create a private list. As the discussions here are not top secret level I'd propose to make it a soft private list: What about stopping archiving at mail-archive.com and gmane and make the directory http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ a password protected one? So moderators can access it, but it's out of the scope of the search engines, which should be enough secret for the purpose given. Friedrich -- Friedrich Strohmaier - Admin team - The Document Foundation http://www.documentfoundation.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] moderation does not work?
Hi, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-10-27 18:04: As the discussions here are not top secret level I'd propose to make it a soft private list: What about stopping archiving at mail-archive.com and gmane and make the directory http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ a password protected one? So moderators can access it, but it's out of the scope of the search engines, which should be enough secret for the purpose given. I don't want to make a third type of mailing list, honestly. One is public lists with mlmmj and public archives, the other one is Mailman with protected archives. In terms of manageability, I'd prefer having only one of these types... Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] moderation does not work?
I tried to keep it private by putting the list address in bcc, but that, of course, didn't work. So, yes, I vote for private. We discuss individual posters in here and our method of handling different kinds of posts. Are any other changes being considered for moderation? //James On Oct 26, 2011, at 22:24 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Cor Nouws wrote on 2011-10-26 21:47: I think it is a good situation that moderators have the possibility to discuss some things private. Of course that can always been done in private mails :-\ this is indeed the first time I read this demand. Are there more moderators who would be in favor of making this list private? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] moderation does not work?
Hi, James Wilde wrote on 2011-10-27 08:08: I tried to keep it private by putting the list address in bcc, but that, of course, didn't work. So, yes, I vote for private. We discuss individual posters in here and our method of handling different kinds of posts. ok, the problem then is that it will be a toally new list with a new address @lists.documentfoundation.org, since I have to move from mlmmj to Mailman in order to create a private list. So, I'd like to see some consensus on that, since it involves many changes. Are any other changes being considered for moderation? Nope. :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] moderation does not work?
Hi, Cor Nouws wrote on 2011-10-26 21:47: I think it is a good situation that moderators have the possibility to discuss some things private. Of course that can always been done in private mails :-\ this is indeed the first time I read this demand. Are there more moderators who would be in favor of making this list private? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-moderators] moderation does not work?
Hi, I got two emails from Michael Meeks to moderate. I accepted it and replied to the notification, so that the email will be delivered. Unfortunately, I only get this error message back: Hi, this is the mlmmj program managing the mailinglist moderators@documentfoundation.org I'm sorry to inform you that your message could not be delivered to the list. In order to post to this list, the list address must be contained in either the To: or Cc: header. Thanks. But I did nothing different from earlier. I just selected reply-to to allow Michael's emails through. I did it twice, and in both cases it didn't work. Sigrid *moderator for the moderators-list* -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] moderation does not work?
Hi Sigrid, *, On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote: I got two emails from Michael Meeks to moderate. I accepted it and replied to the notification, so that the email will be delivered. Unfortunately, I only get this error message back: Hi, this is the mlmmj program managing the mailinglist moderators@documentfoundation.org I'm sorry to inform you that your message could not be delivered to the list. In order to post to this list, the list address must be contained in either the To: or Cc: header. So no fault here I guess. The list doesn't accept mails that are sent to the list in secret, hiding this fact from the other recipients. It is as the message says: if the list-address is only in the bcc (blind carbon copy, the field that is hidden from the other users that are in To: or CC: field), it is not accepted by the list. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-moderators] moderation does not work?
On 21 Oct 2011, at 13:27, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Sigrid, *, On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote: I got two emails from Michael Meeks to moderate. I accepted it and replied to the notification, so that the email will be delivered. Unfortunately, I only get this error message back: Hi, this is the mlmmj program managing the mailinglist moderators@documentfoundation.org I'm sorry to inform you that your message could not be delivered to the list. In order to post to this list, the list address must be contained in either the To: or Cc: header. So no fault here I guess. The list doesn't accept mails that are sent to the list in secret, hiding this fact from the other recipients. It is as the message says: if the list-address is only in the bcc (blind carbon copy, the field that is hidden from the other users that are in To: or CC: field), it is not accepted by the list. I can see the sense in that for other lists, but one list should be excepted - this one. From time to time one moves outside the box on moderation, either refusing a message or replying to it direct and skipping sending it to the list (e.g. about gmane problems and the like) and wants to notify the other mods what one has done. On the other hand, I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to advertise the existence of a moderators' list, so I'd prefer to send to moderators as a bcc. BTW I'm getting two copies of everything in this discussion except Sigrid's last post. Is anybody else? On the other hand, even though I have two copies of almost everything, I'm still not clear what the issue is. I assume the secret is in the missing message from Michael (I think it was). Can we have a resume of what the problem is? Something to do with moderated messages and answers either not getting to the op or to the list? //James ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to moderators+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/moderators/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
