Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-10 Thread Andy Wardley
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:22:35AM -0700, Rob Nagler wrote: > So how about a panel discussion. I would gladly represent the MVC > camp. :-) (see http://www.bivio.biz/hm/why-bOP for my position.) And I would gladly represent the MVC-is-not-the-final-word camp :-) A

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-09 Thread Rob Nagler
Andy Wardley writes: > I like the sound of it, but I should warn you that I have a personal > crusade against inappropriate use of the phrase "MVC" in relation to > web development. So how about a panel discussion. I would gladly represent the MVC camp. :-) (see http://www.bivio.biz/hm/why-b

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-09 Thread James G Smith
Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ask Bjoern Hansen writes: >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote: >> Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my >> proposal. > >I've also been asked if anyone has a wishlist of talks they'd like to >see at the conference. I

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-09 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote: > Ask Bjoern Hansen writes: > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote: > > Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my > > proposal. > > I've also been asked if anyone has a wishlist of talks they'd like to > see at the confere

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-09 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Andy Wardley wrote: Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: I am planning to submit a proposal for a introduction talk on MVC in a web environment. [...] Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my proposal. I like the sound of it, but I should warn you that I have a personal

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-09 Thread Andy Wardley
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > I am planning to submit a proposal for a introduction talk on MVC in > a web environment. [...] > Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my > proposal. I like the sound of it, but I should warn you that I have a personal crusade against inappr

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-08 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Stas Bekman wrote: > Stas Bekman wrote: > > > Since the submission deadline is one week that certainly would not > > happen. > > For some reason I thought the deadline was Jan 15th, I see that it's Feb > 15th. Wow, you scared the crap out of me for a second. I want to submit

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-08 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: Since the submission deadline is one week that certainly would not happen. For some reason I thought the deadline was Jan 15th, I see that it's Feb 15th. Submit your proposals here: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/create/e_sess

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-08 Thread Stas Bekman
Nathan Torkington wrote: (yes, yes, we all want to see the "How mod_perl 2.0 was finished" but I'm not sure that's on the cards :-) Since the submission deadline is one week that certainly would not happen. Though an improved "mod_perl 2.0 by Example" tutorial is definitely a must for those w

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-08 Thread Nathan Torkington
Ask Bjoern Hansen writes: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote: > Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my > proposal. I've also been asked if anyone has a wishlist of talks they'd like to see at the conference. Ideally they'd be "talks I'd pay money to see" but I

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-08 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote: I am planning to submit a proposal for a introduction talk on MVC in a web environment. It is mostly talking about why (seperation of concerns etc) it's (sometimes) nicer than whatever you used to do and how you apply the goals to the actual implementatio