On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:27 AM, André Warnier wrote:
I see that you mention mysql. This probably means DBI.
I think you need to be a bit careful with DBI and Apache::Reload. I
seem to recall that there are some particularities there
(Probably in relation to permanent cached database connection
On Oct 15, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Adam Prime wrote:
I haven't played with it, but i have read a bunch of Miyagawa's blog
posts about it. I do know that Jeff Horwitz is planning to support
WSGI in mod_parrot / mod_perl 6, but i don't know exactly what that
means ;)
Yeah I heard about that too
On Oct 15, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Issac Goldstand wrote:
Whaddaya know...
Ironically, this might have saved Plone at my workplace had I known
that
this was on the way. We were looking at writing custom WSGI
components
in Python and shuddering (well, I was shuddering)
I'm 80% Python now, so
Has anyone here played with Plack yet ? ( http://plackperl.org/ )
It's about a week old or so publicly, but I'm sure a few of you folks
here were privvy to a preview...
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On Feb 13, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
We had to stop using libapreq2 for cookies, because we found out
that wordpress
(being a shoddy piece of software) was generating invalid cookies
at times.
when apreq encountered it, it segfaulted.
What version of apreq was this? And did yo
On Feb 13, 2009, at 3:38 PM, André Warnier wrote:
The management part of me says that if you sell shoddy merchandise to
people, they are going to come back and hit you with it.
Presumably, if you get such kind of posted data from a form, it is
because you sent a shoddy form to the browser, which
On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Phil Carmody wrote:
In those name/value pairs, according to HTML 4 at least, the names
must begin with a letter [A-Za-z]. The empty string does not do so.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Part of me agrees with that philosophy.
Another part of me is more practical.
chiming in a few months late...
from my experience, and responding to some thoughts in the thread:
- storing photos in mysql/pgsql is not a good idea. aside from misc
issues that always arise, you end up stressing the db through searches
- the better way would be to store photo meta-data in
was
investigating
some other option, but i think i'l use it :)
Be careful, IPC::Shareable is pretty slow, especially for large chunks
of data. In most cases, an RDBMS or a dbm file ends up being faster.
also memcached can work well here
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On Jun 5, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
Count me in. This should be fun. Work on your mod_php jokes.
does anyone even use that anymore ? (a serious question)
On May 22, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
The module I'm presenting at YAPC::NA and OSCON this year,
DBIx::Router, will make it easier to add this kind of partitioning
after the fact. It lets you set up rules to choose which database to
send a query to. When I have a public prototype
erour ram and APC .5GB. then run the rest of the box on
memcached. its not worth running replicants on your http machines -
you're better off tossing the CPU to php and the RAM to memcached.
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On May 11, 2008, at 2:52 AM, Marc Lambrichs wrote:
Here's my view: they create a parent App::Handler and in every
virtual host they create a Site::Handler which has App::Handler as
base. My first guess is that under mod_perl you don't know which
Site::Handler will be called. Ofcourse, at
If so, catch me offlist.
This will become relevant to the list next week, i promise ;)
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On Mar 28, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Colin Wetherbee wrote:
Care to add one, just to see what happens? :)
You know you've been working too much on the Business Side when you
stop testing stuff like that automatically. sigh...
ok...
it works if i have
package MyApp;
sub handler {}
sub handler_
On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Colin Wetherbee wrote:
Hm. Yep. ResponseHandler can interpret the ::ResponseHandler part
as being a function within Handler.pm, but that does *not* work for
InitHandler.
i have it set up using
PerlFixupHandler
PerlResponseHandler
PerlC
On Mar 26, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Colin Wetherbee wrote:
We seem to have solved the problem, but for the sake of
conversation...
When I've tried that in the past, mod_perl would always look for
handler() within JetSet::Handler::AccessHandler.pm.
Wow.
I've got 5 sites in production right now..
On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Colin Wetherbee wrote:
PerlAccessHandler JetSet::Handler->AccessHandler
PerlResponseHandler JetSet::Handler->ResponseHandler
sub ResponseHandler
{
my (undef, $r) = @_;
# ...
}
what about...
PerlAccessHandler JetSet::Handler::AccessHandler
sub AccessHandler
On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:29 PM, J. Peng wrote:
coding from perl to python is easy,at least it's easy for me.
but,as many guys have said to me, from python to perl is not easy.
perl's many features,like the rich built-in variables and context,are
not so easy to be accetable by newbies.
I think th
On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:57 AM, Dami Laurent (PJ) wrote:
Hi Randy,
Thanks a lot, seems to work fine (but I didn't test very
extensively yet).
Just one small bug in the PPM : the ppd file mentions
Apache2::Reload, but this is not included in the tar.gz file. So I
had to manually install it.
g to save on hardware scaling, developer scaling, is the
codebase just unmanageable? this would be a costly transition
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cessing, and write a
session expiry system in an event driven framework ( or even use cron/
at jobs to trigger shell scripts )
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
Sure, it's a building block. You build the expiration part on top of
it. Either you use a timestamp column in your database or you update
a timestamp in the session data. Then you check that to see if too
much time has passed.
You can certai
On Jan 6, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Kurt Hansen wrote:
I'm using Crypt::RSA module for generating public & private keys.
Now the
problem is that when I'm storing the keys in the database, and again
bringing them to do the signature or verification the Crypt::RSA
module is
unable to understand the
try using Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA
its a little faster. there is a memory leak in it, but the max-
requests directive will make it pretty inconsequential.
On Dec 28, 2007, at 5:37 AM, arnab wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I'm using a small script to use the Crypt::RSA module under windows
using
Active
On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Adam Prime wrote:
I believe in this situation what you want is $r->status
(Apache::Const::HTTP_OK). HTTP_OK and OK are not the same thing
at all.
It's a mean trick... one is an HTTP constant, the other is a
mod_perl constant ( ie HTTP_ prefix and no prefix )
On Dec 23, 2007, at 1:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the print magic only happens if you are running under
SetHandler perl-script, and not if you are running under SetHandler
modperl.
Ah, that seems to be it.
I never used perl-script ; I went straight for modperl when i did the
On Dec 22, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
By the way, if you just call print() normally it should all be grabbed
by mod_perl anyway. Is there some reason you need to call $r->print()
instead?
I thought it only does that if you bind STDOUT the right way on
compile time, otherwise it
I'm surprised you're even getting a redirect, this doesn't make sense
to me. the MP cleanup handler is supposed to happen after the
request is served / client connection is terminated (docs below)
if you're trying to do a redirect after processing, try a stacked
handler
http://perl.apac
On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Boysenberry Payne wrote:
Our system could benefit a lot from being able to compile SWFs on
the fly; right now they're all
static files loaded dynamically. I could see making them
dynamically as needed, while still serving
up the static renditions.
We do some d
Ext is good. Personally, I like the MochiKit system (though a good
friend maintains it). A few of the big-guys use it for all their
internal systems.
It has a neat dev enviroment - even has an interpreter for you to dev
in.
http://mochikit.com/examples/interpreter/index.html
O
On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Boysenberry Payne wrote:
Our system could benefit a lot from being able to compile SWFs on
the fly; right now they're all
static files loaded dynamically. I could see making them
dynamically as needed, while still serving
up the static renditions.
We do some d
What does it download?
print "Content-type: text/plain\n\n";
print "Mod Perl 2 Rocks\n";
or
Mod Perl 2 Rocks
?
On Nov 18, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
Okay, the copy/paste error just confused me.
In any case, Apache2::Reload wipes all package variables. It uses
ModPerl::Util::unload_package. So, this is the intended behavior. My
general advice is to only used Apache2::Reload on a dev serv
atcher to a factory class
On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Nov 18, 2007 7:30 PM, Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
below is a summation of my problem. when a2::reload recompiles off
of a changed sub, i lose the entire WATCH_ME var.
What would this
I'm losing variables under apache2:: reload
below is a summation of my problem. when a2::reload recompiles off
of a changed sub, i lose the entire WATCH_ME var.
i think this might happen because of the begin blocks. and the way
plugins register. i thought it wise to bring this up though,
u get your HTML data
as without mod_tidy.
To load the module into Apache, add it to APACHE_MODULES in
/etc/sysconfig/apache2 ('a2enmod mod_tidy'). To learn about the
configuration, refer to
/usr/share/doc/packages/apache2-mod_tidy/README.
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On Nov 13, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Dodger wrote:
Something doesn't sound right with this assessment. Stealing the
digest(password) wouldn't let you in on a different connection because
you'd be using a different seed on a different connection...
Yes, you're right , as is your example.
However, the
an unseeded digested password and limit replay
attacks.
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On Nov 13, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Michael Peters wrote:
Why is this considered "ticketless"? Isn't the challenge that you
mention below
really a ticket? And does the client need to present this ticket on
every request?
Yes, you're right - the challenge is a ticket -- and must be
presented on
y
The SVN is here:
http://dev.2xlp.com/svn/mod_perl/Authen::Ticketless/trunk/
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i'm just tossing this idea out...
1) have a profiler package that handles all the logging, etc - and
uses a constant
package MyApp:::Profiler;
use constant DO_PROFILE=> 1;
sub profile {
my ( $marker )= @_ ;
#log;
}
1;
2)
On Nov 10, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Hendrik Van Belleghem wrote:
To be honest, I haven't been able to get DBD::mysql compiled, nor
Apache2::Request (properly - still some strange errors in the
apache2 error log when I try to load it).
I haven't fully tested the Apache2 (or mod_perl for that matter).
Slightly off-topic:
The 10.2 10.3 and maybe 10.4 versions of Apache that came with OS X
had library conflicts with mysql/php if you tried to compile modperl
1 or 2
Can I interpret your post to mean that one does not have to rebuild
Apache2 now too?
On Nov 10, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Hen
On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:40 PM, John ORourke wrote:
Pound (http://www.apsis.ch/pound/index_html) is light-weight,
easy to
I can disagree -- nginx does everything that pound does, plus
will handle your vanilla
FLAME WAR!!!1!1!
well its not meant to flame... your options are this:
a)
On Nov 8, 2007, at 5:50 AM, Clinton Gormley wrote:
Pound (http://www.apsis.ch/pound/index_html) is light-weight, easy to
configure, fast, stable, and makes the whole SSL and load balancing
dead
easy.
I can disagree -- nginx does everything that pound does, plus will
handle your vanilla s
On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Foo JH wrote:
What is fast to cook, good to eat is HTML::Template. No XML, easy
abstraction between your web designer and developer.
I GREATLY prefer using TAL ( in perl using Petal ) for the V
someone finally made an integration for Petal and Catalyst.
unfo
On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:25 PM, Mag Gam wrote:
I have just started learning perl and mod_perl, and I must admit I
am enjoying it a lot!
I am tying to upload a file, so I can do some calculations to the
file, my question is what is the "correct" and most "efficient" way
to upload the file, an
Are we going to have 2.09 release? It's been quite some time since
RC2
actually, i'd like to see an RC3-- there was an issue I kept
complaining about that Joe was going to solve thanks to some testing
by [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- reference the posting on 2007.05.25
Supposedly, this is going
e the info in $r ; you
ESPECIALLY DO NOT want to do that in your case
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On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Carl Johnstone wrote:
I've got a two-apache reverse proxy setup, split over two hosts.
The problem I've got is that I'd like to put the user_id in the
access logs so that our log analysis software can make use of it.
Setting apache->user correctly logs the user
On Jul 29, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Brian Reichert wrote:
But, that contradicts the behavior I see with my command-line tool
demo:
distinct processes with distinct tied hashes can sucessfully share
data
through the sdbm. :/
any reason why you're using sdbm ? you might be better off with bdb,
On Jul 20, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Michael Peters wrote:
For some reason, some people are hesitant
to run multiple versions of apache on the same machine, but there
are lots of
people who do it all the time and it works out just fine.
If you're concerned about running 3 apaches (1 for mod_perl, 1
connections for 10 children , as any wait time will be offset by db
blocking in later request cycles of your app. thats theoretical
though, i haven't had the need/time to try that, but i&
to rewrite mod_autoindex to get your functionality.
However, that wouldn't be very hard to do in MP .
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On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
On 7/13/07, Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm thinking of the situation where you have 1 parent, 4 children.
all 4 children hit max-requests and exit before the first replacement
spawns. without a standing connec
First off- thank you perrin , i'm a step closer to fully
understanding this.
On Jul 12, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
No. This is explicit shared memory, not a mysterious copy-on-write
thing. You need to initiate access separately from each process so
that none of the XS stuff
Could you elaborate on this?
I'm a bit unclear:
are you suggesting
a) the tie be global pre-fork
b) the tie be post-fork
c) there be no tie whatsoever , and somehow a connection is made
using the API at the beginning , and everything just uses the library/
api methods
?
m
little mistake like that can be fixed by moving a 'my' from a package
into a sub.
thats a common mistake that could result in that effect. the other
answers are much more specific to your
gpool. the apache::dbi/dbi cached don't
really pool; they just override connects for established connections
on their process and reuse them. things like sqlrelay/pgpool will
let you use 50 db connections for 150 server processes ( by blo
variable names can change, and the only
way to get/modify vars is through the api methods.
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On Jul 3, 2007, at 5:51 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
I don't really understand this description. If you're trying to code
a singleton pattern, use global variables to hold the object. That
makes it clearer what your intent is.
Scoping works the same as usual under mod_perl. If you need acces
competing for resources with processes
that can take several seconds. bad idea.
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ou a 2 deep directory \d\d = 64*64 = 4096
files
if only base32 were more common thats a good sweet spot. for
simplicity, i usually do 3 base16 chars. but 2 base32 might be
better for your os.
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ou're just going to bloat apache and tie up resources.
i run nginx on port80 for static content, push php content to fastcgi
and proxy certain urls to mod_perl. my server's efficiency spiked
drastically when i moved away from an all-apache setup.
ral static
file handling, under mp if at all possible. let it handle content
generation and authorization as the 'brains' -- thats what it does
best. use other apps like perlbal, nginx, whatever to handle your
static files and large uploads.
erl servers. all of the db interaction on
that stuff is handled by requests to internal perl-servers which
return json objects. its really gives us the best of both worlds.
On Jul 1, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
On 30 Jun at 16:55 Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ment, there are
edge cases where things get messed up, and which require a stop-
start to
get them working again. And for this reason, we would not usually
consider using this module in production.
its much less edge-cases than it is use-cases.
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problems on this list. its likely not the culprit of the problem
you're seeing now, but it will be causing many issues down the road.
its not meant for production, its geared
, but
you should NEVER run Apache::Reload in a production server.
NEVER
NEVER NEVER NEVER.
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hatever;
}
any changes go into myapp Page, or other modules.
i never have to worry about the reload issues on the handler. pretty
simple.
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that one, but i believe that is the command that locks down
what swf files can redirect browsers to ( same domain as html or any
or none )
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some smtp servers will give you their own guid for the message if you
set stuff up right-- but thats not standard across systems.
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their effects end up looking like
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On Jun 21, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Frank Wiles wrote:
Off the top of my head? So you can centralize your SMTP
onto on system if you have multiple servers in the mix. But
that's what MIME::Lite and friends do if you don't specifically
tell it to use a remote system.
ok. relaying to a local
like
Mime::Lite::Template::
I've finally sorted myself out with a PAUSE account so I'll be
scouting around for the ideal namespace at some point. I'll be
discussing off-list with Jonathan Vanasco so do butt in if you're
keen to contribute.
Yeah that's a good idea, p
is done, it updates the status to
'processed' , and leaves either a sucessess or failure flag
'waiting page' reloads every 6-10 seconds. if it sees 'processed' in
the db, it shows sucesses.
btw, the job insert checks for 'si
situations out there too. those are just
the ones i deal with daily.
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On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:05 PM, John ORourke wrote:
$version = ( $ENV{MOD_PERL_API_VERSION}==2 )?2:1;
that won't work, because that requires mod_perl to be loaded.
the original poster said:
"How do I check what version of Apache is installed from command
line (without using/lodaing mod_
rs can be
unreachable. let your MTA handle that. don't do that in mod_perl.
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then just call `httpd -v` from a perl script as a shell command, and
trap the output. i forget the name of the app that does that...
ipc::run ?
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On Jun 16, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
300 is nothing for MySQL. You should be able to handle a few thousand
on a machine with enough RAM.
agreed. MySQL connections are cheap. Postgres ones consume RAM and
kernel resources, and more than 50 sucks on a box.
If you already
dbpool. for a
while i was using pgpool , which is an intermediary server to pool pg
connections. i had 60 connections to pgpool, and 40 connections from
pgpool the db. but then i got 2 gb more ram, and didn't need it.
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{filename}.cal");
which will let me turn a http://calendar/path/to/091231jhh?1238u13
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overlimit amount of data is posted
does anyone have an idea how i can better test this to figure out wtf
is going on ?
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upgrade to MP2 and Apache2::Request.:(
apache drops to nobody, so thats fine.
what was the error ? why did it fail ?
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On Jun 13, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Jeff Pang wrote:
When I installed Apache2::Request (without make test) and rut it I got
the errors:
at the risk of stating the obvious...
what happens why you run make test ?
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could give me a hint on how to implement it?
could you print beforehand?
'print' might not be tied to the same output.
this might not be right based on your compile.
print 'foo: ' . $cgi->param('foo') . "\n";
try:
enbsd. i'm under freebsd, and question
them.
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On Jun 9, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Simon Bertrang wrote:
The second thing i found was a missing character for a function
name in
Apache2::SizeLimit (bsd_size_check -> _bsd_size_check):
$OpenBSD: patch-lib_Apache2_SizeLimit_pm,v 1.1 2007/06/09 17:55:01
simon Exp $
--- lib/Apache2/SizeLimit.pm.orig
a httpd -k start I don't have
this problem. Then everything performs as expected.
Why is this?
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the result as someone else chimed in, you just need to catch that via
javascript.
you'd probably be better off with a custom auth system though -
they're not hard to make.
// J
On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Michael Peters wrote:
Good for URI escaping, but that's not the same thing as HTML
escaping, which is
what CGI's escape/unescape do right?
oh, my bad.
then the module is HTML::Entities
// Jonath
0 if there is no login, 1 if
they are logged in
then have your js handle reading the var. its simple.
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ut binding to STDOUT/STDERR to make
sure that it can start.. then it automagically shuts down and
restarts going through the whole process again.
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On Jun 7, 2007, at 9:57 AM, cfaust-dougot wrote:
Hi All,
I'm running the latest mp2 with Libapreq.
Is there some method to duplicate CGI.pm's escape and unescape
methods? I found escape_path, but obviously that isn't the same
thing. I'm trying to remove CGI.pm from all my code and these a
d negliblle when measured
against the db blocking.
i could have chosen a faster engine, but the speed wouldn't have
mattered much in context, and I wouldn't have the portability that
Petal offered me.
So i went with petal, th
On Jun 5, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
I think that's a pretty questionable claim. TT is faster than
CGI::Ex::Template in normal use with mod_perl. CET is only faster if
you use mod_cgi where TT can't do caching. HTML::Template::JIT
compiles your entire template into a C program,
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