Re: make test hangs

2004-08-10 Thread William Fulmer
I have a non root user that I use for all of my software builds (called build strangely enough). All elements (apache, perl, mod_perl) were built as this user. I just tried building as root as the email suggested. It would not run apache as root, but tried to use nobody(which did not work no mat

advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Eric Lenio
I'm about to start work on a web application which will collect information from the user and return a document based on that information. I'm trying to point out the advantages of mod_perl over a solution based on Java servlet technology to my client. Can anyone provide any quick links/ informat

Re: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Eric" == Eric Lenio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eric> I'm trying to point out the advantages of mod_perl over a Eric> solution based on Java servlet technology to my client. Can Eric> anyone provide any quick links/ information to help me out? Well, well-designed mod_perl as a technology

RE: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Kreimendahl, Chad J
Of all the languages I've had dealings with over the years... perl took the cake for ease-of-development. CPAN is by far the greatest asset I've ever had in the programming world. For those who may play down perl's power (especially with mod_perl), lay some smack down using notes from Stas' tuto

Re: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Kreimendahl," == Kreimendahl, Chad J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kreimendahl> For those who may play down perl's power (especially with Kreimendahl> mod_perl), lay some smack down using notes from Stas' Kreimendahl> tutorial at OSCON. My notes from my "intro to mod_perl" at OSCON 2004 are

Re: Multiple Aliases in Perl Section name virtual hosts

2004-08-10 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
Kim Goldov wrote: Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: Does the following patch solve the problem for you ? ? make.log Index: lib/Apache/PerlSections.pm === RCS file: /home/cvs/modperl-2.0/lib/Apache/PerlSections.pm,v retrieving revision 1.5 d

Re: Date parsing speeds

2004-08-10 Thread MJH
On Monday 9 August 2004 07:01 pm, Stuart Johnston wrote: > Would you be willing to add other modules to your benchmark? I would be > interested to see how HTTP::Date and DateTime::Format::HTTP (which uses > HTTP::Date) compare. Again for a 10,000 iteration test: Date::Parse::str2time

RE: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Clayton Cottingham
> -Original Message- > From: Kreimendahl, Chad J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:32 AM > To: Eric Lenio > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets > > > Of all the languages I've had dealings with over the years... >

RE: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Clayton Cottingham
Sorry about empty post {had just replied to Chad and was meaning to send to mod_perl as well} My story: I started off with javascript/coldfusion Quickly had to move to asp, then on to java Java held me for quite a period of time until I was forced to use perl, I resisted until I realized how th

Re: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Xavier Noria
On Aug 10, 2004, at 15:56, Eric Lenio wrote: I'm about to start work on a web application which will collect information from the user and return a document based on that information. I'm trying to point out the advantages of mod_perl over a solution based on Java servlet technology to my client

Re: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Xavier Noria
On Aug 10, 2004, at 19:12, Xavier Noria wrote: On Aug 10, 2004, at 15:56, Eric Lenio wrote: I'm about to start work on a web application which will collect information from the user and return a document based on that information. I'm trying to point out the advantages of mod_perl over a solution

Re: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Eric Lenio
the reason I'm asking is because the client is really more attuned to the java hype/buzzwords that exists out there. having done just a smattering of java, I am somewhat at a loss as to tell them exactly why a perl solution is better. this client does already have some investment in java, but no p

eWeek Reviews Bricolage

2004-08-10 Thread David Wheeler
eWeek has reviewed Bricolage, the mod_perl-powered, PostgreSQL-backed open-source content management system. The article was published last week. An excerpt: Bricolage is quite possibly the most capable enterprise-class open-source application available. The Web content management application

Re: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Xavier Noria
On Aug 10, 2004, at 21:28, Eric Lenio wrote: the reason I'm asking is because the client is really more attuned to the java hype/buzzwords that exists out there. having done just a smattering of java, I am somewhat at a loss as to tell them exactly why a perl solution is better. this client doe

Re: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Torsten Foertsch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 10 August 2004 21:28, Eric Lenio wrote: > the reason I'm asking is because the client is really more attuned to the > java hype/buzzwords that exists out there. having done just a smattering > of java, I am somewhat at a loss as to tell the

Re: advantages of mod_perl over java servlets

2004-08-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 16:24, Xavier Noria wrote: > I am confident too, Slashdot runs on Perl for instance Slashdot, although of great interest to techies like us, is tiny. Amazon runs on Perl. Yahoo runs a lot of Perl. Ticketmaster is all mod_perl. IMDB is Perl. All of these get tons more tra

Re: make test hangs

2004-08-10 Thread William Fulmer
We need to back up a bit. I tried something different just for giggles because I thought we might be on the wrong track with setuid. I wrote a little script that this #!/bin/bash /usr/opt/httpd-2.0.49/bin/httpd -d t -f conf/httpd.conf -DAPACHE2 -DONE_PROCESS -DNO_DETATCH > stdout 2>&1 & tusc -p

APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Bart Simpson
Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in another post: > APR::Base64 and APR::URI look pretty > useful too. > What are some practical uses of APR::Base64? Encoding credit card nums before storing in DB? Passwords? The doc at http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/APR/Base64.html#Synopsis

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 19:00, Bart Simpson wrote: > What are some practical uses of APR::Base64? Sending binary data in ASCII. > Encoding > credit card nums before storing in DB? Passwords? No. It's not encryption. > I'm > particular in need of encrypting/encoding credit card > nums before

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Geoffrey Young
>>I'm >>particular in need of encrypting/encoding credit card >>nums before storing them > > > Two-way encryption? Blowfish, with Crypt::CBC. Storing credit cards is > a bad idea though. that really depends on your business - if you are, say, an ISP that invoices clients monthly asking them t

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 20:01, Geoffrey Young wrote: > that really depends on your business - if you are, say, an ISP that invoices > clients monthly asking them to give your a CC number each month is not > exactly customer friendly :) Verisign, and undoubtedly others, will store it for you and give

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Geoffrey Young
>>but hiding the decryption key from technical people is generally >>impossible > > > Only if they crack your application server. Cracking the database or > sniffing packets would not be good enough, assuming traffic to your > credit card company is over SSL. oh, sure. I guess I had a differe

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Bart Simpson
--- Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 19:00, Bart Simpson wrote: > > What are some practical uses of APR::Base64? > > Sending binary data in ASCII. > > > Encoding > > credit card nums before storing in DB? Passwords? > > > No. It's not encryption. > OK.

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Bart Simpson
thank you. i'll look into it. How much do you pay for this service? --- Trond Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 04:00:58PM -0700, Bart > Simpson wrote: > >> APR::Base64 and APR::URI look pretty > >> useful too. > > What are some practical uses of APR::Base64? > E

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
Bart Simpson wrote: OK. its good for Encoding as in changing forms but not hiding from other readers. I think i get the difference. Encode does not imply any secrecy or privacy where as encrypt does. Right. Aside [ I looked encode and cryptography (encrypt wasn't in my webster collegiate paperback

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread Bart Simpson
--- Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bart Simpson wrote: > > OK. its good for Encoding as in changing forms > but > > not hiding from other readers. I think i get the > > difference. Encode does not imply any secrecy or > > privacy where as encrypt does. > > Right. > > > Aside [ > >

Re: APR::Base64 uses

2004-08-10 Thread mock
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 08:57:14PM -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: > > >>but hiding the decryption key from technical people is generally > >>impossible > > > > > > Only if they crack your application server. Cracking the database or > > sniffing packets would not be good enough, assuming traffic