Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all! In regards to the previous discussion about trimming down CPAN and finding better ways to find quality modules, I got an idea of making CPAN category reviews. The idea was originally derived from Freshmeat.net where they often have category reviews of the various software hosted there:

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 14:02 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! In regards to the previous discussion about trimming down CPAN and finding I don't think trimming is necessary if you are successful with this. IMO the problem is just finding things, which your proposal addresses. better ways

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! Thanks for your email. On Saturday 05 April 2008, Guy Hulbert wrote: On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 14:02 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! In regards to the previous discussion about trimming down CPAN and finding I don't think trimming is necessary if you are successful with this. IMO

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 15:16 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: Why do you feel my previous email was not concise or definite? I admit coulda woulda shoulda ... it was a sort-of brainstorming email, but it was not too long. If you want a this reply is even longer ;-) one paragraph summary then:

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Guy Hulbert wrote: On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 15:16 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: one paragraph summary then: I suggest having a feed of human readable (and possibly machine readable) reviews of the modules in various CPAN categories, as an indication of which

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 16:54 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Saturday 05 April 2008, Guy Hulbert wrote: On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 15:16 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: one paragraph summary then: I suggest having a feed of human readable (and possibly machine readable) reviews of the

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Andy Lester
On Apr 5, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! In regards to the previous discussion about trimming down CPAN and finding better ways to find quality modules, I got an idea of making CPAN category reviews. The idea was originally derived from Freshmeat.net where they often have

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Guy Hulbert # on Saturday 05 April 2008 07:35: My solution (new modules):  2. A small change to the PAUSE upload interface adding some optional  fields which add appropriate meta-data to CPAN. Why add these to an interface instead of META.yml? I use an automatic upload tool. I'm not

Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Andy Lester
Every so often, an idea's like Shlomi's comes up, where we talk about adding reviews to CPAN, or reorganizing the categories, or any number of relatively easy-to-implement tasks. It's a good idea, but it's focused too tightly. What we're really trying to do is not provide reviews, but

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Sat, Apr 05 2008, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! In regards to the previous discussion about trimming down CPAN and finding better ways to find quality modules, I got an idea of making CPAN category reviews. The idea was originally derived from Freshmeat.net where they often have

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 09:41 -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote: # from Guy Hulbert # on Saturday 05 April 2008 07:35: My solution (new modules): 2. A small change to the PAUSE upload interface adding some optional fields which add appropriate meta-data to CPAN. Why add these to an interface

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Andy Lester # on Saturday 05 April 2008 09:57: The focus needs to change from the   tactical (Let's have reviews) to the strategic (How do we get the   proper modules/solutions in the hands of the users that want them.) What good is strategy in a distributed anarchy? It seems to me that

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Andy Lester
On Apr 5, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: If you have a tactic for deploying a strategy, I would like to hear it. Like-minded strategists get together and deploy a single solution. -- Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Andy Lester
On Apr 5, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Thanks for the comments. See below for my response. It will be a rather stream-of-consciousness thing, but I hope something can come up of it. I've expanded my original comments here:

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Andy! (and all) Thanks for the comments. See below for my response. It will be a rather stream-of-consciousness thing, but I hope something can come up of it. On Saturday 05 April 2008, Andy Lester wrote: Every so often, an idea's like Shlomi's comes up, where we talk about adding reviews

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 13:42 -0500, Andy Lester wrote: On Apr 5, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Thanks for the comments. See below for my response. It will be a rather stream-of-consciousness thing, but I hope something can come up of it. I've expanded my original comments

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 21:34 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: Anyway, I'll probably set up a wiki page about it, so we can brain-storm more easily. I will contribute when it's available then. -- --gh

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Sat, Apr 05 2008, Eric Wilhelm wrote: It appears that our current strategy is this: * rely on a proprietary web application for search (search.cpan.org) I like kobesearch better. I hear the code for that is available, which is the main reason I like it better :) I haven't actually

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-05-04 at 18:02 -0500, Jonathan Rockway wrote: I've wanted easily-available CPAN-related APIs also, so I wrote this (with the help of brian d foy++): http://git.jrock.us/?p=MetaCPAN.git;a=summary This indexes the BACKPAN and CPAN and lets you ask questions like what version

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Jonathan Rockway wrote: * On Sat, Apr 05 2008, Eric Wilhelm wrote: It appears that our current strategy is this: * rely on a proprietary web application for search (search.cpan.org) I like kobesearch better. I hear the code for that is available, which is the main reason I like it

Re: license in META.yml

2008-04-05 Thread Alexandr Ciornii
David Landgren wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: As I am usually using Module::Build I did not know that a recent version of MakeMaker has started to support the LICENSE parameter and will include it in the automatically created META.yml. That has been the case for a couple of years or so. I think it

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Andy Lester wrote: On Apr 5, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Thanks for the comments. See below for my response. It will be a rather stream-of-consciousness thing, but I hope something can come up of it. I've expanded my original comments here: