Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Module::Install is the greatest threat to CPAN stability.
So why not get rid of it?
If it does not provide any relevant functionality that EU::MM and M::B
also provide, it should be possible to convince the author to withdraw
it.
-- Johan
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Module::Install is the greatest threat to CPAN stability.
So why not get rid of it?
If it does not provide any relevant functionality that EU::MM and M::B
also provide, it
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Ben Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use it both for the declarative syntax and because it allows me to
type
/path/to/perl Makefile.PL
make test
in a dev directory with a fresh install of perl and get all the
dependencies installed for me. Since I
Since anyone can upload code to CPAN, not all modules are of the same high
quality as others. I feel it is very important to vet each and every module
that I install. But with the auto-install behavior, modules that I want to
install may have dependencies on other modules that I don't feel
* Bill Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-30T15:12:22]
Since anyone can upload code to CPAN, not all modules are of the same high
quality as others. I feel it is very important to vet each and every module
that I install. But with the auto-install behavior, modules that I want to
install may
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Ricardo SIGNES
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Bill Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-30T15:12:22]
Since anyone can upload code to CPAN, not all modules are of the same
high
quality as others. I feel it is very important to vet each and every
module
that I
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Bill Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Ricardo SIGNES
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Bill Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-30T15:12:22]
Since anyone can upload code to CPAN, not all modules are of the same
high
quality as
On Monday 29 September 2008 10:59:09 Michael G Schwern wrote:
Matt S Trout wrote:
use inc::Module::Install;
I will say it again: Module::Install is the greatest threat to CPAN
stability.
s/Module::Install/Autobundling/
Autobundling is fine for end-user all-in-one
2008/9/30 Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
That said, people choose based on convenience, not abstract, long term safety.
So it's for the best that Module::Build absorb every convenience feature
from MI.
For the record, I concur entirely with this solution.
Module::Install was a step
2008/9/30 Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
chromatic wrote:
s/Module::Install/Autobundling/
Autobundling is fine for end-user all-in-one no-user-servicable-parts-inside
applications, but the CPAN is not the place for static linking. It would be
nice not to drag Perl kicking and
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Golden):
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Module::Install is the greatest threat to CPAN stability.
So why not get rid of it?
If it does not provide any relevant
[just sent to module-authors, as this is hardly a p5p matter any more]
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Golden):
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Ben Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use it both for the declarative syntax and because it allows me to
type
/path/to/perl Makefile.PL
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 02:38:03PM -0400, David Golden wrote:
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Ben Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use it both for the declarative syntax and because it allows me to
type
/path/to/perl Makefile.PL
make test
in a dev directory with a fresh
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:07:47AM -0400, David Golden wrote:
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Adam Kennedy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, configure_requires doesn't exist until
there's prod release of both CPAN.pm and CPANPLUS that support it.
Once there is, THEN we
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 01:59:09PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote:
Matt S Trout wrote:
use inc::Module::Install;
I will say it again: Module::Install is the greatest threat to CPAN
stability.
Module::Install bundles itself, but will not use a newer installed version.
[1] At some
You mean like how Module::Build broke over a YAML release and we spent over
a year cleaning up after it because every single user who ran into that
version mismatch had to have the problem explained to them?
I still regularly see -ancient- versions of Module::Build installed lots of
places,
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:53:56 +0100, Ben Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Personally, I wonder how many authors use it because of the bundling
capability and how many use it for the simple declarative syntax for
Makefile.PL.
I use it both for the declarative syntax and because it allows
# from Austin Schutz
# on Tuesday 30 September 2008 16:54:
I really appreciate the real world attitude. I regularly have to
deal with older perls supporting production installed software. I
don't want to (or can't) upgrade it.
Is your it a) perl or b) CPAN.pm? If one is not allowed to
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW Could I somehow install all the dependencies of a module but not
the module itself?
make installdeps
I believe this (for some reason) depends on using autoinstall which
has its own problems.
Shawn
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:12:22PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote:
So I don't like auto-install.
is someone stopping you from turning it off?
are you aware of the prerequisites_policy for CPAN.pm, or whatever its analogue
is for CPANPLUS?
hdp.
Ken Williams wrote:
Hi all,
After much tireless work by Eric Wilhelm and lots of feedback from
patient nonpatient users alike, I'm pleased to announce that version
0.30 of Module::Build is now on CPAN. This is the first non-beta
release in a long time.
Thanks, applied to bleadperl as
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 06:53:56PM +0100, Ben Morrow wrote:
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Golden):
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Module::Install is the greatest threat to CPAN stability.
So
On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote:
Excuse me?
and you kept this information to yourself all those years?
BTW Could I somehow install all the dependencies of a module but not
the module itself?
Yes, that's what the earlier test . recommendation meant.
Personally, to get deps
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:12:22PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote:
So I don't like auto-install.
is someone stopping you from turning it off?
are you aware of the prerequisites_policy for CPAN.pm, or whatever its
* David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-30T22:51:11]
That's not what he's talking about. He's talking about modules that
bundle Module::AutoInstall -- which runs CPAN.pm or CPANPLUS in a
subshell during make to install dependencies.
Are you sure? I think it's quite unclear.
--
rjbs
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