Re: Module::Build::Tiny

2011-08-29 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Aristotle Pagaltzis # on Sunday 28 August 2011 22:50: In my understanding, the complexity of Module::Build piled up because the same tool tries to cover both installation and authoring use cases. I've often had that thought, though I would say that M::B definitely suffers from being a

Re: MetaCPAN is quickly becoming the de-facto interface to CPAN

2011-08-29 Thread David Nicol
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Arthur Corliss corl...@digitalmages.com wrote:  Google switching to SSL by default is as pointless as metacpan.  In the former case it's the protection of delivery to/from an entity that not only doesn't have your best interest at heart, but has a business

Re: Module::Build::Tiny

2011-08-29 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis pagalt...@gmx.de wrote: I find this module intriguing. Thank you. It grew out of Acme::Module::Build::Tiny -- which was an exercise to determine the *minimal* API that Build.Pl/Build needed to allow the toolchain to install a module. (Thus

Re: Module::Build::Tiny / dynamic_config=0

2011-08-29 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from David Golden # on Monday 29 August 2011 08:07: Eric raises the question why bother and I think for module authors, at least right now, there is no burning platform to switch. I think you misunderstand my point. Given dynamic_config support, there is no need for a $builder_or_maker.PL

Re: Module::Build::Tiny / dynamic_config=0

2011-08-29 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: I think the most complicated part is supporting whatever builder+installer assumptions people have encoded into their configurations -- maybe the client could read buildrc? For that, I'd prefer to see a new way for CPAN

Re: MetaCPAN is quickly becoming the de-facto interface to CPAN

2011-08-29 Thread Arthur Corliss
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, David Nicol wrote: I'll take this bait, swallow it, and hopefully bite off the line: Yes, Google is going to use query data for its gain. But, Google's business model also involves *aggregation* and *respecting individual privacy*. The SSL to Google Search is supposed to

Re: Module::Build::Tiny

2011-08-29 Thread Leon Timmermans
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis pagalt...@gmx.de wrote: I find this module intriguing. I'm happy to hear that :-) In my understanding, the complexity of Module::Build piled up because the same tool tries to cover both installation and authoring use cases. There are many