Re: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs

[Nicolas Rochelemagne]

FYI the videos are going to be available (live stream and on demand) on the
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nicolas

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 3:24 AM Konovalov, Vadim 
wrote:

> Ok, thanks for the detailed explanations and for the link to the perl
> conference, I will consider joining the even (ticket is permissive, so I’m
> 50-50 now )
>
>
>
> It was a tendency in ~10 years ago about modernization of perl by adding
> “use strict;” and “use warnings;” everywhere.
>
>
>
> Could it be consider modern already, so that it now has these “use strict;
> use warnings;” but does not have webassembly (WebPerl), and also deprecated
> threading?
>
>
>
> And warnings.pm is too bloated, to my taste.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Nicolas Rochelemagne 
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2020 12:33 AM
> *To:* Konovalov, Vadim
> *Cc:* Nicolas R.; gisle@it.uib.no; module-authors@perl.org
> *Subject:* Re: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs
>
>
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>
> Thanks for your feedback. I trend to agree with you it looks stupid and
> seems to have a very low value by itself at first glance .
>
> Nevertheless I do not see how this can be harmful to enable 'strict and
> warnings' while running unit tests. I think it could help understand issues
> reported by users when trying to install the distribution.
>
>
>
> The Perl community is considering enabling strict and warnings as default
> in the future. As this distribution is shipped with perl itself [dual
> life], making sure the test suite is working correctly with strict and
> warnings, is a first step to make sure we can run the perl testsuite
> without any issues.
>
>
>
> I would recommend you to check the coming "Conference in the Cloud" next
> week to get more details about it.
>
> https://perlconference.us/tpc-2020-cloud/
>
>
>
> Hope this helps you understand the reason for these pull requests.
>
> I would like to understand what are the reasons to not consider such an
> update?
>
>
>
> sincerely
>
> nicolas
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:54 PM Konovalov, Vadim 
> wrote:
>
> The “*Enable strict and warnings on all tests*
> <https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pull/8>” is soo stupid
>
>
>
> It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod
>
>
>
> *From:* Nicolas R. 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM
> *To:* gisle@it.uib.no
> *Cc:* module-authors@perl.org
> *Subject:* Mime-Base64 Pending PRs
>
>
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>
> Hi Gisle, I've submitted a few extra Pull Requests to Mime-Base64 today
> and realized that I've some PRs opened since 2017 that have no feedbacks.
>
>
>
> https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls
>
>
>
> I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance of Mime-Base64.
>
> If so I would gladly take co-maint on the module and help releasing
> updates.
>
>
>
> Please let me know
>
>
>
> sincerely
>
> nicolas
>
>

Re: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs

[Nicolas Rochelemagne]

Thanks for your feedback. I trend to agree with you it looks stupid and
seems to have a very low value by itself at first glance .
Nevertheless I do not see how this can be harmful to enable 'strict and
warnings' while running unit tests. I think it could help understand issues
reported by users when trying to install the distribution.

The Perl community is considering enabling strict and warnings as default
in the future. As this distribution is shipped with perl itself [dual
life], making sure the test suite is working correctly with strict and
warnings, is a first step to make sure we can run the perl testsuite
without any issues.

I would recommend you to check the coming "Conference in the Cloud" next
week to get more details about it.
https://perlconference.us/tpc-2020-cloud/

Hope this helps you understand the reason for these pull requests.
I would like to understand what are the reasons to not consider such an
update?

sincerely
nicolas

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:54 PM Konovalov, Vadim 
wrote:

> The “*Enable strict and warnings on all tests*
> ” is soo stupid
>
>
>
> It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod
>
>
>
> *From:* Nicolas R. 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM
> *To:* gisle@it.uib.no
> *Cc:* module-authors@perl.org
> *Subject:* Mime-Base64 Pending PRs
>
>
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>
> Hi Gisle, I've submitted a few extra Pull Requests to Mime-Base64 today
> and realized that I've some PRs opened since 2017 that have no feedbacks.
>
>
>
> https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls
>
>
>
> I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance of Mime-Base64.
>
> If so I would gladly take co-maint on the module and help releasing
> updates.
>
>
>
> Please let me know
>
>
>
> sincerely
>
> nicolas
>

RE: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs

[John M. Gamble]

Please don't do that.

It's not a major change request, true, but it's certainly not stupid. And
if it is deemed unimportant, then it can be rejected, and doesn't require
this level of editorializing, particularly since it only affects the test
files, not the module code.

The main question is whether github is how the author wishes to deal with
change requests, as there are open (and unresponded) issues dating from
2015.

 -john

On Sat, June 20, 2020 2:54 pm, Konovalov, Vadim wrote:
> The “Enable strict and warnings on all
> tests” is soo stupid
>
> It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod
>
> From: Nicolas R. 
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM
> To: gisle@it.uib.no
> Cc: module-authors@perl.org
> Subject: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs
>
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
> Hi Gisle, I've submitted a few extra Pull Requests to Mime-Base64 today
> and realized that I've some PRs opened since 2017 that have no feedbacks.
>
> https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls
>
> I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance of Mime-Base64.
> If so I would gladly take co-maint on the module and help releasing
> updates.
>
> Please let me know
>
> sincerely
> nicolas
>

RE: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs

[Konovalov, Vadim]

Ok, thanks for the detailed explanations and for the link to the perl 
conference, I will consider joining the even (ticket is permissive, so I’m 
50-50 now )

It was a tendency in ~10 years ago about modernization of perl by adding “use 
strict;” and “use warnings;” everywhere.

Could it be consider modern already, so that it now has these “use strict; use 
warnings;” but does not have webassembly (WebPerl), and also deprecated 
threading?

And warnings.pm is too bloated, to my taste.


From: Nicolas Rochelemagne 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 12:33 AM
To: Konovalov, Vadim
Cc: Nicolas R.; gisle@it.uib.no; module-authors@perl.org
Subject: Re: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Thanks for your feedback. I trend to agree with you it looks stupid and seems 
to have a very low value by itself at first glance .
Nevertheless I do not see how this can be harmful to enable 'strict and 
warnings' while running unit tests. I think it could help understand issues 
reported by users when trying to install the distribution.

The Perl community is considering enabling strict and warnings as default in 
the future. As this distribution is shipped with perl itself [dual life], 
making sure the test suite is working correctly with strict and warnings, is a 
first step to make sure we can run the perl testsuite without any issues.

I would recommend you to check the coming "Conference in the Cloud" next week 
to get more details about it.
https://perlconference.us/tpc-2020-cloud/

Hope this helps you understand the reason for these pull requests.
I would like to understand what are the reasons to not consider such an update?

sincerely
nicolas

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:54 PM Konovalov, Vadim 
mailto:vadim.konova...@dell.com>> wrote:
The “Enable strict and warnings on all 
tests<https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pull/8>” is soo stupid

It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod

From: Nicolas R. mailto:nico...@atoomic.org>>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM
To: gisle@it.uib.no<mailto:gisle@it.uib.no>
Cc: module-authors@perl.org<mailto:module-authors@perl.org>
Subject: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Hi Gisle, I've submitted a few extra Pull Requests to Mime-Base64 today and 
realized that I've some PRs opened since 2017 that have no feedbacks.

https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls

I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance of Mime-Base64.
If so I would gladly take co-maint on the module and help releasing updates.

Please let me know

sincerely
nicolas

RE: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs

[Konovalov, Vadim]

The “Enable strict and warnings on all 
tests” is soo stupid

It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod

From: Nicolas R. 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM
To: gisle@it.uib.no
Cc: module-authors@perl.org
Subject: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Hi Gisle, I've submitted a few extra Pull Requests to Mime-Base64 today and 
realized that I've some PRs opened since 2017 that have no feedbacks.

https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls

I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance of Mime-Base64.
If so I would gladly take co-maint on the module and help releasing updates.

Please let me know

sincerely
nicolas