Hi Folks
I couldn't find any docs for meta_add etc in Module::Build. I did find
them by googling. Can't say exactly where they should go, but I'd like
to see at least a reference to them in there somewhere.
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Hi Folks
I've just started to get the warning msg in the Subject.
I assume it's a side-effect of V 0.3800.
I could not see any reference to a provides key in the docs for M::B,
nor via googling, altho I assume it goes in Build.PL somehow.
What should I do to silence this msg?
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On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 07:52 -0400, David Golden wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Ron Savage wrote:
> > My concern is authors choosing to include a dev version of module, which
> > is in conflict with my policy of - as far as humanly possible - of never
>
Hi David
On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 22:10 -0400, David Golden wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Ron Savage wrote:
> > o Development releases: Can you guarantee (nothing personal :-) we won't
> > have another fiasco a la Data::Dumper (I think it was) a few years ago,
>
Hi Ron
Damn, don't you just hate that!
I forgot to mention one of my pet hates...
On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 10:07 +1000, Ron Savage wrote:
[snip]
o Development releases: Can you guarantee (nothing personal :-) we won't
have another fiasco a la Data::Dumper (I think it was) a few years
Hi David
$many x $thanx for the detailed reply.
More below.
On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 20:39 -0400, David Golden wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Ron Savage wrote:
[snip]
> > o Off-line: For those of us who work on machines with no mini CPAN and
> > no internet access
ning it off make any sense?
o Off-line: For those of us who work on machines with no mini CPAN and
no internet access, I assume this mechanism will be self-contained, in
that everything will 'just work' without that access? Yes?
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o,
recognize that it's saying something about the *.pm file set, and put it
in the meta docs.
Hence my Module::Metadata::Changes, which attempts to make the Changes
(aka *) file confusion into machine-readable confusion.
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ot;, "Deleting this", "Removed this", etc.
> type messages.
>
> I think we should try to make the overall Module::Build experience
> pretty quiet by default and only spew process messages if --verbose is
> true.
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Hi David
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 23:57 -0400, David Golden wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Ron Savage wrote:
> > I want to ensure all files in the dir return the same version number, if
> > I print them using version.pm.
>
> Assuming your *.pm files are in
Hi Eric
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 18:46 -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote:
> # from Ron Savage
> # on Monday 31 August 2009 18:04:
>
> >Is there a program/module which will scan all *.pm files in a dir, and
> >extract what version.pm thinks are version numbers?
>
> Have you l
Hi Folks
This went straight to David, instead of the list :-(.
Forwarded Message
> From: Ron Savage
> To: David Golden
> Subject: Re: Finding all version numbers in a distro's *.pm files
> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:00:38 +1000
>
> Hi David
>
>
Hi Folks
I've been reading up on version numbers and the docs for version.pm,
and looking on CPAN for this one.
Is there a program/module which will scan all *.pm files in a dir, and
extract what version.pm thinks are version numbers?
TIA.
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Hi Curtis
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 10:58 -0600, Curtis Jewell wrote:
> I wonder if he means Test::Prereq (which tests if you've updated your
> requirements in the module, but not in your .PL file)?
Test::Prereq is indeed the one I was searching for.
$many x $thanx;
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The subject says it all.
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, I'd like to see a
statement as to whether or not a module, and all its dependencies, are
pure Perl, for example.
So, I was expecting this metadata would be stored somewhere convenient.
Of s^Hcourc^Hse, I have no problem with the data being easily
generatable, on demand...
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Damn - my replies have not been going to the list...
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 10:47 +1100, Ron Savage wrote:
> Hi Eric
>
> On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 16:21 -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote:
> > # from Ron Savage
> > # on Saturday 21 March 2009 16:00:
> >
> > >compi
Damn - my replies have not been going to the list...
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 10:00 +1100, Ron Savage wrote:
> Hi Eric
>
> On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 10:44 -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote:
> > # from Ron Savage
> > # on Saturday 21 March 2009 02:16:
> >
> > >For those of
Damn - my replies have not been going to the list...
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 10:03 +1100, Ron Savage wrote:
> Hi Lyle
>
> On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 18:12 +, Lyle wrote:
> > Ron Savage wrote:
> > > Hi Folks
> > >
> > > For those of us who wish to
Hi Folks
For those of us who wish to indicate to a program that our distro is a
pure Perl module, I'm thinking that a pure_perl tag in META.yml is the
way to go.
Would it be possible to support that in the tool chain?
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Hi David
>
> Hopefully from Eric's reply you'll see that it was VCfs I was
> questioning, as in "use VCfs;" which from context is some sort of
> abstraction of a "Version Control File System".
Version Control!?
Damn. Something else I ha
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p fund it.
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just love docs which match reality, as distinct say, from
newspapers...
Thanx for the quick response.
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if you \n";
print "* wish to utilize the HTML output options of ini.report.pl. \n";
print "* Run ini.report.pl -h for details. \n";
print "\n";
<==8><==>
One user has reported the script not getting installed, but I don't know
the verion of M::B he's using yet.
I take it, however, that the behaviour of the code has changed and the
docs are just out of date?
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Hi Eric
Pick the odd one out :-):
Everybody hates:
o Module::Signature
o Development-style version numbers
o Thread implementations which don't work
o XYZ implementations which don't work
o Less than infinitely fast response times
o MS Win2FK
o MS WinXFP
o MS WinFVista
o Etc
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enough.
> I believe that M::B::Compat in 0.2808_01 will do this for you if you
> are having M::B generate your Makefile.PL.
OK. But I maintain all my Makefile.PL's manually, at the moment.
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00562:
No such file or directory
So the second question is, what's the Makefile.PL equivalent of:
perl=> '5.005_62',
TIA.
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;===8><===>
Not sure which stmt triggered the warning.
Worth worrying about?
Since the latter 2 are in a different package, I'd expect to not get
that warning.
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ne:
>
> 'PL_FILES' => {}
>
> I suspect that keeps older EU::MM from thinking that Build.PL should
> be automatically included.
So that's what that's for!
And you're right, the current CGI::Session Makefile.PL does not contain
any such line.
$many x $thanx;
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3.html
and
/Volumes/Media/smoke/perl562/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib"
Build.PL Build
in
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/03/msg1203263.html
Only the latter says Module::Build not found.
Any ideas?
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eDir loaded ok (v0.69)
> ...
Excellent. Perhaps a trifle obscurantistic (not you, the problem :-),
but...
$many x $thanx;
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stall YAML and YAML::Syck after
asking the user if they want to. Or are these modules designed
deliberately to disallow that?
Seeking clarification.
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kurila
Perhaps just think of it as:
Google has not yet indexed the One True Kurila Site
(to your satisfaction) :-).
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On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 17:46 +0100, demerphq wrote:
Hi Yves
> Kurrila has that one right
What is that?
I Googled for that, and Google says try Kurilla, but could not see
anything relevant.
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#x27;1.00';
at the start of a package, so the remaining 'ur' was deemed by Perl to
be a function/subrouting call of some sort.
Sorry about that. I have a great excuse, but I'll save it up for another
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ule::Build;
Module::Build -> new
(
module_name => 'Local::Application',
license => 'artistic',
dist_abstract => 'Local::Application',
dist_author => 'Ron Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>',
requires
estion I've seen on this topic.
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e politest interpretation I see is that the author intended (fingers
crossed) that array covers scalar - as $value - without having to use
the heavy-handed construct [$value].
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y, it violates the Principle of Least Surprise.
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Ron Savage wrote:
Hi Ron
Any ideas?
Well, yes, actually...
Under WinXP:
shell>echo %TZ%
displayed %TZ%. When I ran
shell>set TZ=+1000
(as per the Win2K machine), then Param::Util's inc/Module/Install.pl
line 60 'if stmt' triggered the error under XP the same as was a
s\Params-Util-0.25>
=><8=
I'm using Strawberry Perl V 5.8.8 alpha 2 in both cases.
Any ideas?
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ess someone screams "NO, STOP!" I intend to add this functionality to
> MakeMaker.
Do it no matter who screams!
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d both with and without installing Module::Install separately.
So, IMHO I'd say this problem has been solved, which is good news,
although I can't say /exactly/ what solved it :-(.
No need to spend any more time examining the Strawberry directory I sent
you unless the problem reappear
the absolute latest M:I in it.
I did (without installing any other modules first), and it installed
without complaint. My apologies. The problem is more complex than it
seemed.
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Hi Adam
Curious
Delighted to get a response.
So, any idea what you or I have done to Strawberry Perl to make your
version magically work and mine to fail? I would /really/ like to solve
this problem.
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s resolved.
Reference: For Module::Install V 0.64, the real problem is a line 58. Of
the 2 values being compared, one is UTC, one not. Hence the patch invoking
Win32::UTCFileTime.
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Don't you just hate that. I sent this to Ken, not the list...
Original Message
Subject: Re: _detildefy -- r9408
From: "Ron Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:Thu, May 3, 2007 2:30 am
To: "Ken W
-interactive install would throw a warning,
but not
stop the installation.
Errr, and WTF happens when I'm installing via a CGI script :-)?
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s, but now see them more like triggers,
causing the parser to fire off callbacks on a per-target basis.
I leave the details as an exercise for the student.
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Let the record show: Microsoft is not an Australian company
> The various Alien modules are another. There's already existing
> wrapper modules for ssh, rsync and gpg.
Sounds good to me.
In fact, now some experts have entered the fray, I can problably sink back into
well-deserved obscurity.
BTW I'll be trying Alien's XML soon.
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nto a bit, since that way I can dump data without anyone needing
to interpret it.)
And yes, I'm assuming English here. And the meta data file is small, so a few
bytes are nothing.
o Don't aim to solve all imagined problems with the first version. Plan for
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Strawberry Perl, since it comes with GCC included, which means I can use
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that version of GCC (but that's another story).
Thanx for reading this far.
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 20:32:19 -0500, Ken Williams wrote:
Hi Ken, Adam
I had a slight suspicion when I first posted that this might be a can of worms,
and now I know :-(.
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Let the record show: Microsoft is not an
bet. I was an install, not an upgrade.
> So you see, if authors almost always have C compilers, the META.yml
> files are going to return false positives saying you need C
> compilers.
Here I'd agree authors would normally have compilers, in that we develop modules
on a machine with one,
s, that will not generally be reflected in the
> compiler flag...
I assume this is based on a misunderstanding. I'm not suggesting a flag for
whether or not the author has a compiler installed, but whether or not the
module's user needs one installed.
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ndency requires
compilation, although dare I say that should be the goal of this first step.
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Thanx for coming up with this idea. It look promising, at least to me.
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:00:10 -0400, David Golden wrote:
Hi David
> All three are specific, well-understood (in hindsight) and have now
> been addressed.
We are probably all aware that many things, including hindsight, and clear in
hindsight :-).
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ess stable.
OK.
> distribution. He may reevaluate that now; I am fully prepared to
> maintain a parallel code inside M::B (since the code is already
> modular enough to support that).
OK. So what steps do you suggest I take, exactly (in my situation only)?
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ion numbers, and in that case the
Right!
Everybody take a deep breath, and go back to basics!
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g them.
Start here: http://savage.net.au/Perl-modules/html/local-module-overview.html
Local::* modules are in the usual place: http://savage.net.au/Perl-modules.html
I don't expect to be putting these on CPAN.
What's installed:
http://savage.net.au/Perl-modules/html/local-module-report.html
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On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:27:42 -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
Hi David
A couple of mini-crises fabricated (by others) at work has distracted me, but I
have documented almost everything in my Local::* modules.
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Let
old) and install the
latest in a directory which does not have spaces in its name.
Please send all replies to the list.
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On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:26:15 -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
Hi David
> What do those programs look like? I wouldn't mind seeing them.
Sure. Give me a few days though, to wrap them up. It's all OO BTW.
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get
> -- uninst to work when upgrading perl, but if so I don't know it.
Exactly my thoughts. That's why I'm prompting for clarification from demerphq
himself.
> If you just upgrade M::B within a 5.8 installation, it will
> continue to go into site/lib/, even if it's a
I love to hate. Some other modules eval its version number as a
numeric, and report many errors because 2.121_04 is not numeric. Death to dev
versions!
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ocation shouldn't have changed, nor
> the --prefix location, so I'm not sure what's going on there.
Nope. I use (having checked for the presence of Build.PL):
o perl Build.PL
o perl Build
o perl Build test
o perl Build install uninst=1
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l/lib/Module, and never install itself into /perl/site/lib/Module, so the
question is moot, right (he said hopefully)?
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, the new version installed into /perl/site/lib, and not
/perl/site/lib/perl5 (having regard to the change you quoted), because (under
Windows) I don't use install_base and everything just works. Sigh. Another
complication :-(.
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Hi Folks
Just wondering.
When Module::Build is a core module will it still live in /perl/site/lib/Module/
or will it move to /perl/lib/Module/?
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Hi Folks
OS: GNU/Linux
Perl: 5.8.0 (Nuff said)
When I installed V 0.2611 it went into my-lib/lib/.
When I installed V 0.2801 it went into my-lib/lib/perl5.
o Why?
o Why did it not delete the previous version, given I used:
perl Build install uninst=1
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Module::Info a reliable alternative?
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:35:29 -0500, Ken Williams wrote:
Hi Ken
> It's actually not the shell, it's the kernel. :-/
Oh. I was assuming Module::Build /was/ the kernel :-)).
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On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:20:27 -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
Hi David
>> I can't hunt down an obvious unsubscribe...
> Look in the headers:
> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Just a sec. Isn't that for the new list?
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ded
the max allowed for your shell.
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On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 11:30:58 -0500, Ken Williams wrote:
Hi Ken
> *) get whatever list archives we have to look at the new list (what
> archives do we have, even?).
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=module-build-general
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