[Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Geek Moth
I am using Apache2.2 + Mongrel on my machine. Now I am accessing it over LAN. When I enter http://mymachinename/myapp it opens fine but when I click on any link in my rails app, it replaces mymachinename with localhost (http://localhost/myapp/controller/action) and thus I am unable to access it

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Cynthia Kiser
Quoting Geek Moth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am using Apache2.2 + Mongrel on my machine. Now I am accessing it over LAN. When I enter http://mymachinename/myapp it opens fine but when I click on any link in my rails app, it replaces mymachinename with localhost

Re: [Mongrel] Error installing Mongrel on Solaris 9

2007-11-07 Thread Luis Lavena
On 11/7/07, Brian Penrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Luis... RubyGemsVersion 0.8.11 Oh, you should try update rubygems at least... version 0.9.4 is the latest stable published. But I'll try to get that version running on my sandbox and see what happens. Too many version compatibility

Re: [Mongrel] Server timeouts

2007-11-07 Thread Pete DeLaurentis
Thanks Wayne. I will definitely let the group know. This community is an awesome resource. When trying to get feedback via other software forums (in this case lighttpd) it really makes me appreciate the difference. Cheers, Pete On Nov 7, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Wayne E. Seguin wrote: On

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Nathan Vack
We had something similar in Apache when proxying twice (slightly odd internal architecture). We to brute-force the Host: header in my site's httpd.conf: RequestHeader set Host railsapp.example.com And, as others have suggested, make sure your ServerName directive is set properly. -Nate

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Ripta Pasay
I'm assuming all of your configuration below is *not* in a VirtualHost block? If so, what's the value of your ServerName directive? It should read: ServerName mymachinename I know the same ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse directives (with the proper ServerName) work if you put it in a

Re: [Mongrel] Server timeouts

2007-11-07 Thread Pete DeLaurentis
Thanks Wayne. After some further investigation, my suspicion is on the Lighttpd web-server. When I run in development mode with Mongrel using web-brick the timeouts don't happen at all. This indicates it's not a mongrel or rails / ORM issue. It makes sense that web-servers would have

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel and memory usage

2007-11-07 Thread Zed A. Shaw
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:06:01 +0100 Thomas Balthazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Kirk, Thanks for your answer. I'm using ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i486-linux]. The Rails app uses those plugins : * acts_as_taggable_on_steroids * attachment_fu * exception_notification * localization Hmm,

Re: [Mongrel] Meta-question: anonymity makes me cranky

2007-11-07 Thread Zed A. Shaw
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:47:50 -0600 Nathan Vack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that SMTP makes absolutely no guarantee that I am actually Nathan Vack [EMAIL PROTECTED], nor that you are actually David Vrensk [EMAIL PROTECTED]. All unsigned email is fundamentally unverified and should

Re: [Mongrel] Meta-question: anonymity makes me cranky

2007-11-07 Thread David Vrensk
On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:14 AM, David Vrensk wrote: [1] I don't feel that I'm pointing fingers here, because I can't see whom I am pointing at. See? I can change two lines in my email client and I'm you! (Note: this is HORRIBLE MANNERS... but essential to remember. Also, you can usually

Re: [Mongrel] Meta-question: anonymity makes me cranky

2007-11-07 Thread Nathan Vack
On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:14 AM, David Vrensk wrote: My ceasing to answer anonymous questions won't lead to a huge dip in the traffic on this list, of course, but perhaps others have already reacted in the same way, and we are missing a lot of good traffic already. What do you think? I

Re: [Mongrel] file access with mongrel running as windows service

2007-11-07 Thread Ralf Vitasek
yes that helped! i just needed to switch the drive letter with the UNC path :) thanks for pointing that out. years of using windows but never thought it worked that way Am 07.11.2007 um 15:48 schrieb David Vrensk: On Nov 7, 2007 3:01 PM, gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have an archive of

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel Cluster: Rolling restart?

2007-11-07 Thread Andrew Stewart
Forgive me if this has been asked before, but is there a reason mongrel_rails cluster::restart stops all ports and then restarts them again? Wouldn't it be better to restart each port one-by-one in series so that upstream proxy servers can fail over while the restart is occurring, or am I

[Mongrel] file access with mongrel running as windows service

2007-11-07 Thread gmail
i have an archive of documents (word, excel, jpeg, png, gif...) residing on a network share that is accessed via send_file. when running mongrel on the command line the files are properly delivered. with mongrel running as a service they don't. now normally i would think that should be

Re: [Mongrel] Server timeouts

2007-11-07 Thread Wayne E. Seguin
On 11/2/07, Pete DeLaurentis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Does anyone know if mongrel has a built-in timeout for requests that take too long? If so, how do you increase it? I've found that some server requests are timing out. Complicated requests are already being farmed out to

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel Cluster: Rolling restart?

2007-11-07 Thread Eden Li
Here's a patch to Cluster::Restart based on some code that Eric Kolve sent to me (I added check_wait): http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=15427group_id=1306atid=5147 On 11/7/07, Wayne E. Seguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/3/07, Eden Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,

[Mongrel] mongrel - monit issue

2007-11-07 Thread Eire Angel
Hi, was wondering if anyone else had a similar problem and knows why or a solution. basically my mongrels seems to work fine. i am running three clusters all which are monitored by monit. monit has the ability to restart a mongrel if it doesn't pass a port connection test. so the problem is

Re: [Mongrel] mongrel - monit issue

2007-11-07 Thread Joey Geiger
What do your logs say? Why are the mongrels not responding? Since you're not in production, you should be able to pinpoint exactly when and why they stopped responding. On Nov 7, 2007 1:15 PM, Eire Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, was wondering if anyone else had a similar problem and knows

Re: [Mongrel] mongrel - monit issue

2007-11-07 Thread Pete DeLaurentis
Hi Chris, I hit this too at the same kind of timeframe you mentioned. In my case, the mongrel processes do become non-responsive, making monit necessary to keep my webapp living + breathing. The problem occurs on multiple machines: some running OpenSuse 64-bit and some running Ubuntu

Re: [Mongrel] Error installing Mongrel on Solaris 9

2007-11-07 Thread Luis Lavena
On 11/7/07, Brian Penrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luis, We still have not been able to get past this error. We do have OpenSSL installed not the machine. Rake installed fine, which I thought also needed SSL??? The Rake gem isn't signed, the Mongrel one is. As I commented, it seems

Re: [Mongrel] mongrel - monit issue

2007-11-07 Thread Kirk Haines
On 11/7/07, Pete DeLaurentis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hit this too at the same kind of timeframe you mentioned. In my That sort of a delay -- 6 to 20 hours is what the OP mentioned -- screams at me that the problem is probably related to the db handle timing out. Even if you change the AR

Re: [Mongrel] mongrel - monit issue

2007-11-07 Thread Pete DeLaurentis
That sort of a delay -- 6 to 20 hours is what the OP mentioned -- screams at me that the problem is probably related to the db handle timing out. Even if you change the AR timeout value to 14400 (the most often quoted value that I see), that is still just 4 hours. If your process sits

Re: [Mongrel] Server timeouts

2007-11-07 Thread Wayne E. Seguin
On 11/7/07, Pete DeLaurentis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Wayne. After some further investigation, my suspicion is on the Lighttpd web-server. When I run in development mode with Mongrel using web-brick the timeouts don't happen at all. This indicates it's not a mongrel or rails / ORM

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Cynthia Kiser
Quoting Vapor .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what kind of info is required to clear it more? Like my httpd-proxy.config file? Thats the only thing I added to the system. Give an example of the rails code that generates on of the links that says localhost. Are you using link_to? Then, yes, show us

Re: [Mongrel] [noob] simpletest.rb, mongrel 1.1, ruby 1.8.4, mac os x 10.3.9 hangs

2007-11-07 Thread PA
On Nov 07, 2007, at 20:37, PA wrote: But running examples/simpletest.rb hangs: % ruby examples/simpletest.rb The application sit there, not going any further than the require 'mongrel' statement. Any thoughts one what I could be missing? Never mind... after upgrading to ruby 1.8.6 and,

Re: [Mongrel] can't configure mongrel_cluster to start on boot

2007-11-07 Thread Tiberiu Motoc
Hi David, Thanks for all your help. It now makes sense how it all works. Unfortunately for me it doesn't work and I don't think it is because of mongrel_cluster. After you mentioned that I should have a symbolic link to mongrel_cluster_ctl in /usr/bin, I realized that maybe the whole Ruby

[Mongrel] Meta-question: anonymity makes me cranky

2007-11-07 Thread David Vrensk
Fellow mongrelians, forgive a slightly off-topic rant; my hope is that it can lead to a better world. In the past few months, I have seen an increase in anonymous questions on this list, anonymous in the sense that the sender names do not resemble real human names, and also in the sense that the

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Wayne E. Seguin
On 11/7/07, Geek Moth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Apache2.2 + Mongrel on my machine. Now I am accessing it over LAN. When I enter http://mymachinename/myapp it opens fine but when I click on any link in my rails app, it replaces mymachinename with localhost

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel Cluster: Rolling restart?

2007-11-07 Thread Wayne E. Seguin
On 11/3/07, Eden Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Forgive me if this has been asked before, but is there a reason mongrel_rails cluster::restart stops all ports and then restarts them again? Wouldn't it be better to restart each port one-by-one in series so that upstream proxy servers

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Vapor ..
Cynthia Kiser wrote: Quoting Vapor .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what kind of info is required to clear it more? Like my httpd-proxy.config file? Thats the only thing I added to the system. Give an example of the rails code that generates on of the links that says localhost. Are you using link_to?

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Vapor ..
here it is... === LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so LoadModule proxy_http_module modules/mod_proxy_http.so ProxyRequests Off Proxy * Order deny,allow Allow from all /Proxy Alias /myapp c:/rails/myapp/public Alias /images c:/rails/myapp/public/images Alias /stylesheets

Re: [Mongrel] file access with mongrel running as windows service

2007-11-07 Thread David Vrensk
On Nov 7, 2007 3:01 PM, gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have an archive of documents (word, excel, jpeg, png, gif...) residing on a network share that is accessed via send_file. when running mongrel on the command line the files are properly delivered. with mongrel running as a service

[Mongrel] [noob] simpletest.rb, mongrel 1.1, ruby 1.8.4, mac os x 10.3.9 hangs

2007-11-07 Thread PA
Hello, I'm trying to run the latest/greatest mongrel version: % sudo gem install mongrel ... Successfully installed mongrel-1.1 % gem list mongrel mongrel (1.1) % ruby -v ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [powerpc-darwin7.9.0] % uname -a Darwin NewYork.local 7.9.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed

Re: [Mongrel] Error installing Mongrel on Solaris 9

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Penrose
Thanks Luis... RubyGemsVersion 0.8.11 Mongrel version 1.0.4...we also have a Mongrel 1.1 folder but I don't see a gem file with it. The --debug install options below didn't generate anything. Brian Luis Lavena wrote: On 11/7/07, Brian Penrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luis, We still

Re: [Mongrel] mongrel - monit issue

2007-11-07 Thread Jesse Proudman
I wonder... how many 64-bit mongrel users are out there? My old servers are 32 bit machines, but my new ones are all 64 bit machines. All of our production boxes lately have been 64bit. -- Jesse Proudman, Blue Box Group, LLC ___ Mongrel-users

Re: [Mongrel] file access with mongrel running as windows service

2007-11-07 Thread Ralf Vitasek
sorry that wasn't posted anonymously on purpose. i just set up my gmail account with imap in apple mail last night and didn't even noticed it put gmail in the sender name. until i sent the reply. Am 07.11.2007 um 15:48 schrieb David Vrensk: On Nov 7, 2007 3:01 PM, gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mongrel] file access with mongrel running as windows service

2007-11-07 Thread gmail
yes that helped! i just needed to switch the drive letter with the UNC path :) thanks for pointing that out. years of using windows but never thought it worked that way Am 07.11.2007 um 15:48 schrieb David Vrensk: On Nov 7, 2007 3:01 PM, gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have an archive of

Re: [Mongrel] mongrel - monit issue

2007-11-07 Thread Kirk Haines
On 11/7/07, Pete DeLaurentis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for this Kirk. Yep, I was using 14400. I'm switching this to 2 weeks: 1209600 and we'll see if any further restarts are needed by monit. I've always wondered why 14400 is the number that is always passed around when talking about

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Vapor ..
what kind of info is required to clear it more? Like my httpd-proxy.config file? Thats the only thing I added to the system. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. ___ Mongrel-users mailing list Mongrel-users@rubyforge.org

Re: [Mongrel] Error installing Mongrel on Solaris 9

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Penrose
Hi Luis, We still have not been able to get past this error. We do have OpenSSL installed not the machine. Rake installed fine, which I thought also needed SSL??? Any ideas? Thanks, Brian Luis Lavena wrote: On 11/5/07, Brian Penrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All other gems (including

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Cynthia Kiser
Your Rails code looks fine and should give you normal urls as far as I can see. I am afraid I don't use ProxyPass and Directory directives; I use mod_rewrite + VirtualHost stanzas. So I hope someone else on the list can see what is funky. At a glance, this stanza looks fairly normal - though I

Re: [Mongrel] mongrel - monit issue

2007-11-07 Thread Eire Angel
Maybe there is some db issue with a _really_ long timeout like 1209600? that was my thought. i set it mine to 115200, 32 hours more than enough but not too crazy Kirk Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/07, Pete DeLaurentis wrote: Thanks for this Kirk. Yep, I was using 14400. I'm

Re: [Mongrel] Error installing Mongrel on Solaris 9

2007-11-07 Thread Evan Weaver
1.1 is fine for production although there is a (now) known bug with mongrel_rails restart. Evan On Nov 7, 2007 2:01 PM, Luis Lavena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/07, Brian Penrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Luis... RubyGemsVersion 0.8.11 Oh, you should try update rubygems at

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel and memory usage

2007-11-07 Thread Evan Weaver
If you need to auth the images then check out some of the auth-before-redirect modules available for various web servers. I think Danga's Perlbal was made for just this purpose. Evan On Nov 7, 2007 12:01 PM, Zed A. Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:34:25 +1100 Dave Cheney

Re: [Mongrel] [noob] simpletest.rb, mongrel 1.1, ruby 1.8.4, mac os x 10.3.9 hangs

2007-11-07 Thread Evan Weaver
Simpletest should probably be removed or at least audited; I don't think anyone has looked at it in a while. Evan On Nov 7, 2007 3:11 PM, PA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 07, 2007, at 20:37, PA wrote: But running examples/simpletest.rb hangs: % ruby examples/simpletest.rb The

Re: [Mongrel] can't configure mongrel_cluster to start on boot

2007-11-07 Thread David Vrensk
On Nov 7, 2007 9:13 PM, Tiberiu Motoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, Thanks for all your help. It now makes sense how it all works. Hi Tiberiu, thanks, I'm glad to hear that! Unfortunately for me it doesn't work and I don't think it is because of mongrel_cluster. After you

[Mongrel] Weird freeze problem

2007-11-07 Thread Paul-Kenji Cahier
Hello, I am running mongrel 1.1 in production mode behind a lighttpd with mod_proxy. At first everything works fine, however, after a few days, the mongrel servers stop answering at all, even if I try to connect to them directly. I have checked logs but there is no sign of anything at all, and

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Evan Weaver
I also don't want git. Evan On Nov 7, 2007 11:40 PM, Luis Lavena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2007 1:37 AM, Wayne E. Seguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2007 11:22 PM, Evan Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good. Let's wait for a few more suggestions and then later this

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Evan Weaver
Sounds good. Let's wait for a few more suggestions and then later this week you can hook us up. What about the SVN mirror business? Would we just close the Rubyforge one? Evan On Nov 7, 2007 10:46 PM, Ezra Zygmuntowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I have a private ey namespace of

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Ezra Zygmuntowicz
Yeah I have a private ey namespace of devjavu so it would be an unlimited account. -Ezra On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Evan Weaver wrote: Ezra, would that be the premium devjavu account? We already have more than 5 committers. Evan On Nov 7, 2007 10:31 PM, Evan Weaver [EMAIL

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Luis Lavena
On 11/8/07, Wayne E. Seguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option would be to setup a redmine instance. You can point it at an SVN repo and specify how you'd like to associate items in the commit logs. It has issue tracking, wiki, etc. http://redmine.org/ RedMine is too overkill and too

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Wayne E. Seguin
On Nov 7, 2007 10:31 PM, Evan Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah... devjavu would require migrating the SVN too which is not a big problem. I was thinking I would use svnmirror on my own server against Rubyforge to support a Trac. I already run some tracs so that's not a big deal. But

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Evan Weaver
Ezra, would that be the premium devjavu account? We already have more than 5 committers. Evan On Nov 7, 2007 10:31 PM, Evan Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah... devjavu would require migrating the SVN too which is not a big problem. I was thinking I would use svnmirror on my own server

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Luis Lavena
On Nov 8, 2007 12:28 AM, Wayne E. Seguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2007 10:24 PM, Ezra Zygmuntowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evan- I'd be happy to donate a devjavu account with trac and svn for the project if you want. I'd vote for that option. Almost forgot: we

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Luis Lavena
On Nov 8, 2007 12:08 AM, Evan Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Mongrels, The same questions keep coming up over and over on the list, which is ok, but not really optimal. If we added a wiki to the Mongrel site to handle FAQs, what wiki should it be? Required features would be: * Spam

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Ezra Zygmuntowicz
Evan- I'd be happy to donate a devjavu account with trac and svn for the project if you want. Cheers- -Ezra On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Evan Weaver wrote: Dear Mongrels, The same questions keep coming up over and over on the list, which is ok, but not really optimal. If we

Re: [Mongrel] MySQL timeout value (was: mongrel - monit issue)

2007-11-07 Thread Luis Lavena
On Nov 7, 2007 9:33 PM, Ezra Zygmuntowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way that I have put this issue to bed for people is with this crunchy little hack in their environment.rb: Thread.new { loop { sleep 60*60 ActiveRecord::Base.verify_active_connections! } }.priority = -10

[Mongrel] byte-range requests

2007-11-07 Thread Alex Egg
I'm trying to sent a file to the iphone (which requires byte-range request support) using the rails send_file method. However, this fails, I think because of mongrel. I think so because if I send the iphone a file handled by nginx, it plays it fine. But then when I serve the file with rails the

Re: [Mongrel] MySQL timeout value (was: mongrel - monit issue)

2007-11-07 Thread Pete DeLaurentis
Steve, It sounds like you're referring to another setting on the MySQL side. If the Rails timeout is just a little bit longer, then it will automatically reconnect. Is this right? Thanks, Pete On Nov 7, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Steve Midgley wrote: At 03:24 PM 11/7/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mongrel] MySQL timeout value (was: mongrel - monit issue)

2007-11-07 Thread Ezra Zygmuntowicz
The way that I have put this issue to bed for people is with this crunchy little hack in their environment.rb: Thread.new { loop { sleep 60*60 ActiveRecord::Base.verify_active_connections! } }.priority = -10 That little baby will keep your database connected. Cheers- -Ezra

Re: [Mongrel] Links go to 'localhost'

2007-11-07 Thread Vapor ..
Nothing worked! But the solution was somewhere else...It took me 4 hours to find that I had to change BASE_URL in my 'reverse_proxy_fix' plugin from http://localhost/myapp to http://mymachinename/myapp :S Gotta get some sleep -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

[Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Evan Weaver
Dear Mongrels, The same questions keep coming up over and over on the list, which is ok, but not really optimal. If we added a wiki to the Mongrel site to handle FAQs, what wiki should it be? Required features would be: * Spam protection * Doesn't look shitty I would probably spring for Trac

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Wayne E. Seguin
On Nov 7, 2007 10:24 PM, Ezra Zygmuntowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evan- I'd be happy to donate a devjavu account with trac and svn for the project if you want. I'd vote for that option. ~Wayne ___ Mongrel-users mailing list

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Wayne E. Seguin
On Nov 7, 2007 11:22 PM, Evan Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good. Let's wait for a few more suggestions and then later this week you can hook us up. What about the SVN mirror business? Would we just close the Rubyforge one? Or... switch to git. ~Wayne

Re: [Mongrel] Mongrel wiki?

2007-11-07 Thread Luis Lavena
On Nov 8, 2007 1:37 AM, Wayne E. Seguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2007 11:22 PM, Evan Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good. Let's wait for a few more suggestions and then later this week you can hook us up. What about the SVN mirror business? Would we just close the