Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
New mailing list for ironbash is at ironbash-de...@lists.sourceforge.net Those that are interested or just curious, please join. Jonathan Pobst wrote: On 4/10/2010 12:50 PM, Jerry Maine - KF5ADY wrote: Do you think we should start our own group to do this (on a separate website) or ask the mono project to host it for us (on svn)? For the most part, the mono project has stopped hosting external projects. We do not have a fancy setup that allows for advanced permissions and such, so any time you want to add a user, you have to email miguel who does it manually, and all users have write access to the whole mono svn. (So we can't restrict everyone else from committing to your project, or visa-versa.) There are many great other places that are dedicated to the type of hosting you need, like Google Code, SourceForge, CodePlex, GitHub, Gitorious, or Launchpad. Best of luck! Jonathan ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
How many people are wanting to help me on this project? Joe Dluzen wrote: I was working on* just this project. I toyed with the standard Ironing of the names, IronBash or maybe bash4.net. I'd love to see this too. Would be nice to use it as a drop in replacement for boot, compilation, everything. Auto generate and save an assembly... oh the possibilities. Joe *: Just initial research, nothing written. Too many things, too little time. :( What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
I'm not an expert on language design, but I'm an extensive user of scripting languages with relatively deep knowledge into how the alternatives work. I'd be glad to help in whatever way makes the most sense for the project, and I'd certainly be able to provide feedback about using it in a real-world environment. ~ jf -- John Feminella Principal Consultant, Distilled Brilliance On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:52, Jerry Maine - KF5ADY crashfou...@gmail.com wrote: How many people are wanting to help me on this project? Joe Dluzen wrote: I was working on* just this project. I toyed with the standard Ironing of the names, IronBash or maybe bash4.net. I'd love to see this too. Would be nice to use it as a drop in replacement for boot, compilation, everything. Auto generate and save an assembly... oh the possibilities. Joe *: Just initial research, nothing written. Too many things, too little time. :( What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
Do you think we should start our own group to do this (on a separate website) or ask the mono project to host it for us (on svn)? John Feminella wrote: I'm not an expert on language design, but I'm an extensive user of scripting languages with relatively deep knowledge into how the alternatives work. I'd be glad to help in whatever way makes the most sense for the project, and I'd certainly be able to provide feedback about using it in a real-world environment. ~ jf -- John Feminella Principal Consultant, Distilled Brilliance On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:52, Jerry Maine - KF5ADY crashfou...@gmail.com wrote: How many people are wanting to help me on this project? Joe Dluzen wrote: I was working on* just this project. I toyed with the standard Ironing of the names, IronBash or maybe bash4.net. I'd love to see this too. Would be nice to use it as a drop in replacement for boot, compilation, everything. Auto generate and save an assembly... oh the possibilities. Joe *: Just initial research, nothing written. Too many things, too little time. :( What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
On 4/10/2010 12:50 PM, Jerry Maine - KF5ADY wrote: Do you think we should start our own group to do this (on a separate website) or ask the mono project to host it for us (on svn)? For the most part, the mono project has stopped hosting external projects. We do not have a fancy setup that allows for advanced permissions and such, so any time you want to add a user, you have to email miguel who does it manually, and all users have write access to the whole mono svn. (So we can't restrict everyone else from committing to your project, or visa-versa.) There are many great other places that are dedicated to the type of hosting you need, like Google Code, SourceForge, CodePlex, GitHub, Gitorious, or Launchpad. Best of luck! Jonathan ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
To anyone interested, I have started a sourceforge project iron bash. If you are interested in helping out, please send me your sourceforge username so I can add you to the project. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ironbash/ Jonathan Pobst wrote: On 4/10/2010 12:50 PM, Jerry Maine - KF5ADY wrote: Do you think we should start our own group to do this (on a separate website) or ask the mono project to host it for us (on svn)? For the most part, the mono project has stopped hosting external projects. We do not have a fancy setup that allows for advanced permissions and such, so any time you want to add a user, you have to email miguel who does it manually, and all users have write access to the whole mono svn. (So we can't restrict everyone else from committing to your project, or visa-versa.) There are many great other places that are dedicated to the type of hosting you need, like Google Code, SourceForge, CodePlex, GitHub, Gitorious, or Launchpad. Best of luck! Jonathan ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Jerry Maine - KF5ADY crashfou...@gmail.com wrote: What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? I would certainly like a file- and process-oriented bash-like scripting language for dlr/clr that runs on Mac, Linux and Windows. Currently, if I write bash scripts for a project then Windows developers have to install something like cygwin, or we cook up the equivalent .bat. Bleck on the .bat. I get along with cygwin okay, but that's a heavy requirement, especially considering the installation experience. I wouldn't personally require total compatibility with sh or bash. In other words, if you did some things differently, I would still use it. For example, bash cannot make up its mind on how to end a block (fi, }, done, esac). Why not just end or end foo? The tie in with .net/mono would obviously be attractive to this group. To be fair, I have not evaluated to what extent PowerShell might already fulfill this role. Thanks for bringing this up, -Chuck ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? Have you considered using say zsh or ksh? I mean there are already many different shells so the question is do we really need yet another shell? On the other hand, if one wants to gradually transform Unix-like systems into Windows-like systems, then one can use the real thing instead. a.s. -- Apostols Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece _ Νέα Windows 7: Απλοποιήστε τις καθημερινές σας εργασίες. Βρείτε τον κατάλληλο υπολογιστή για εσάς. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
On 09.04.2010 12:38, Απόστολος Συρόπουλος wrote: On the other hand, if one wants to gradually transform Unix-like systems into Windows-like systems, then one can use the real thing instead. This is not an option because we aim to subvert Unix-like systems after all. The first goal of world's dominance is to replace all g*-tools with *# variants and call those ethical. Robert ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
This is not an option because we aim to subvert Unix-like systems after all. The first goal of world's dominance is to replace all g*-tools with *# variants and call those ethical. Be my guest but remember that sh is not GNU tool! A.S. -- Apostols Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece _ Hotmail: Ισχυρό, δωρεάν email με ασφάλεια από τη Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
This is not an option because we aim to subvert Unix-like systems after all. The first goal of world's dominance is to replace all g*-tools with *# variants and call those ethical. On a second thought, it would be quite interesting to have to type ls# -l, dd# if=/dev/zero# etc. Not to mention that in certain cases tar# would not be functional and a newer tar# would be needed to untar# the latest tar# archive, which will be included in an executable rar# archive... A.S. -- Apostols Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece _ Το email σας και πολλά ακόμα εν κινήσει. Αποκτήστε δωρεάν το Windows Live Hotmail. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
On 4/8/2010 8:29 PM, Jerry Maine - KF5ADY wrote: What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? I think it would be awesome. Please go get started, let me know when you have something to share :) I love bash, and being able to join bash and the BCL would be awesome. -- Jay ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
I was working on* just this project. I toyed with the standard Ironing of the names, IronBash or maybe bash4.net. I'd love to see this too. Would be nice to use it as a drop in replacement for boot, compilation, everything. Auto generate and save an assembly... oh the possibilities. Joe *: Just initial research, nothing written. Too many things, too little time. :( What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
Hi, We have very serious requirement for this. We tend to use it for dynamic rules / event processing. For now, we are just using Reflection, and still ne to clean runtime compilation. Any formal design will be great. Ajay -Original Message- From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Maine - KF5ADY Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:29 PM To: mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: [Mono-dev] sh# What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
[Mono-dev] sh#
What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] sh#
Yes that takes advantage of the dlr to speed things up. Drop it in /bin and speeds up *nix scripts and possibly boot time. John Feminella wrote: That sounds like an interesting idea. By compatible with (sh|bash) do you just mean that it has a shebang-compatible interpreter? ~ jf -- John Feminella Principal Consultant, Distilled Brilliance On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 20:29, Jerry Maine - KF5ADY crashfou...@gmail.com wrote: What does everyone think about making a new dlr script language that is compatible with sh or bash? Maybe called sh#? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
