We have uploaded the slides used at the Mono meeting:
http://www.go-mono.com/meeting/schedule.aspx
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> http://www.mono-project.com/Parallel_Mono_Environments
Ah, that is a much better answer ;-)
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Hello,
> I'd like to run the newest stable version too on my machine.
> Write now i do this by having a script, a pre-script/post-script
> that moves the mono binary, libs and /etc/mono to the version
> I want, runs the program, and then changes it back.
You compile Mono to be installed in a par
Hello,
> I'm a little confused about the status of the VB runtime envinronment.
> The VB.NET support page indicates that a new runtime is under
> development, however, the release notes for Mono 1.1.18 indicates
> improvements to the new runtime.
>
> Is the new runtime included with 1.1.18?
Yes,
Hello,
> > I'd rather limit any renaming to the specific platform that
> > requires it.
> > In bug 77324 it's mentioned that we don't use a linker script on
> > macosx;
> > that should be the first part to be fixed imho.
>
> Apart from not yet getting Mono to compile for any local experiments
Hey!
> The above was on Tiger; I also tested it on Panther (which I believe
> I hadn't before) and I did not observe any issues running my app and
> mcs.
Great news!
Robert deserves all the credit (and probably a life-long supply of free
beer) considering all his help. I merely applied the
Hello,
Mono 1.1.18 has been released, this is our last large release before
Mono 1.2. Lots of improved and new things on this release, please see:
http://www.go-mono.com/archive/1.1.18
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> BTW I think that it should be advertised on www.mono-project.com on some
> highly visited place that Mono is able to execute binaries compiled using
> MS.NET because a lot of people don't know this and the compile and eved
> distribute different binaries for Mono and MS.NET altough they only
Hello,
> > Trying use Mono Remoting the same way as remoting for MS Framework I
> > have missed to find any implementations
> > of System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.IChannel
> >
> > Perhaps someone heard about an implementation of it or have an example
> > how to use remoting in Mono.
>
> Compile
> I am about to start a asp.net 2.0 project and I was wondering if mono
> supports delivering websites as binary assemblies instead of distributing
> the actual .aspx files with code behind?
This is a 2.0 feature and it is still an area we are working on, its not
done yet.
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Hello,
> So, should I try to prepare a patch for the runtime with the renaming
> Paolo proposed in #77324 as a solution? Or could it be related to the
> non-specified x86 thread attaching issues mentioned by Paolo in #77638?
One thing that I would like to check with Dick about his personal
pr
Hello,
> When embedding Mono 1.1.17.1 on OS X i386, I get an assertion failure
> in mono_jit_init:
> ** ERROR **: file threads.c: line 420 (mono_thread_attach): assertion
> failed: (thread_handle)
> aborting...
> It goes on to mention SIGABRT and includes an empty stacktrace.
>
> The same cod
Hey,
> I meant the last "mini.diff" patch against the runtime.
>
> > I am working on a managed Xcode plugin, so patching my own local Mono
> > is no solution.
>
> You could try out the patch, especially on x86, and post a follow
> up to the bug entry. Or build a dylib (derived from the patch's
Hey,
> I'd be happy to talk a bit about NUnit and where it is in terms of
> running on Mono out of the box. It wouldn't be a deep-tech talk, just
> an experience report of what kinds of things we ran into, what we're
> doing about them and what might help us move it along.
That would be great, I
Hello,
Mono 1.2 is quickly approaching as the bug count in Mono's
Windows.Forms is closing. But we are aware that there will be likely
bugs in the Winforms implementation that we are not aware of, and that
we will be shipping a series of 1.2.1, 1.2.2 releases to address the
issues as people
Hello,
Over the past few years, people have suggested that we should create
a foundation to further develop Mono. The idea in general is good, it
has worked fairly well for Gnome, and has worked fairly well for
Apache.
This comes at a time when some third parties would like to see Mo
Hello,
> I dont have /dev/fd/6 on my system but I guess there must be other
> "special" dev files...
The file only exists during the time that inotify is being setup
on /dev/fd, thats why you have not seen it.
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> I'm trying to monitor /dev using the FileSystemWatcher however my app
> seems to hang at the point when i call "watcher.IncludeSubdirectories
> = true" without that line the code runs fine. Monitoring /tmp with
> that option turned on does work...
>
> Also if i try running the code with
Hello,
Folks, we found a cheaper hotel to organize the event for the Mono
Meeting, so it will now be hosted closer to the Novell offices in
Cambridge (close to the original location).
The updated location is:
Royal Sonesta Hotel
Cambridge MA
This is the hotel:
Hello,
> I'm looking for information related to the latest release of Mono. It
> seems something may have changed which breaks the Vault command line client.
>
> Previous versions of mono (1.1.12.x) with the vault.exe had no problems
> but in 1.1.13.8 we have users reporting the following error:
Hello,
This is an update to the previous post on the venue where
the Mono Meeting will be held.
We apologize for the inconvenience, but due to a clerical
mistake the event will not be held in the Marriot Kendall
hotel in Cambridge, it will be held in the Lo
hello,
> Alternatively, if anyone out there wants to use the library, go right
> ahead. Just send me bugreports and keep me posted on what applications
> are using it (just so i can keep count of how many apps are using the
> library). If you want features, or the public API to be changed in any
>
Hello,
> This results in a recursiong with Conversions.ToDecimal because CDec (and
> all the other CType conversions are done at runtime unless the type is known
> to the compiler as well. And anyway there is no use to do reinterpretation
> when the exact type is know. A simple unbox is enough.
Hey!
> But it's unable to bootstrap itself on MS.NET using our VB runtime so the VB
> runtime should be fixed as well before trying to fix vbnc on Mono.
Do you have some details for me?
This is a good observation, before we launch ourselves into a quest to
fix bugs on the Mono side (although we
looked at this.
> Vbnc does not always emit correct symbol information, +/-1 line is normal,
> even more in some cases.
>
> Rolf
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> I tried to use ApplicationSettingsBase class with MONO 1.1.17.1
This is a 2.0 API, Mono does not support Windows.Forms 2.0
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> In both operating systems, Datagrid ignores 0 and = key presses. Those
> characters are located in the same keyboard key, equal sign is entered
> using
> Shift + keypress.
> Other digits from 1 to 9 are working.
>
> How to enter 0 and = characters into Datagrid cell ?
The 0 is a b
Hello,
> When running application containing MenuStrip control, an error
>
> Method not found: 'System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.get_items'
>
> appears and application terminates.
>
> How to add menu to WinForm application ?
That is a Windows.Forms 2.0 API, and that is not currently suppo
Hello,
> I think an easier solution is to generate mdb debug info using MS.NET SRE.
> The attached Compiler.diff implements this hack.
This will work for code that we can directly modify, and in this
particular case, I think it would be great to get these patches into
vbnc, as that way we could
Hello,
> The sources were too large for list's brain.
Thank you so much Robert!
This is exactly what I needed :-)
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> is there any chance that Ironpython 1.0 will work on Mono (on MacOS X if hat
> matters) anytime soon?
>
> The people on the Ironpython list told me that there is a known bug in Mono
> that prevents Ironpython from working...
The 1.0 version should work out of the box with Mono 1.1.17
Hello,
Sorry to spam the list, but if you see this kind of pattern:
> Object reference not set to an instance of an object
> at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[System.Object].AddEnumerable
> (IEnumerable`1 ) [0x0] in
> /home/cvs/mcs/class/corlib/System.Collections.Generic/List.cs:117
>
Hello,
> * Go to the vbnc/vbnc/bin directory, and try the following
> scripts:
>
> sh test-module MODULE
>
> Where MODULE is one of:
>
> 1Declarations, CompileTime, CompileTime2, Mono,
> Resources, RunTime, SelfTest or VBRunTime
When s
Hey folks,
So Rolf's new VB compiler can bootstrap itself on Windows, and is
able to build its own runtime on Windows as well (I mean, with .NET),
but on Linux we are running into a few bugs in Mono.
I did a little bit of work to get it working, but before we try to
bootstrap vbcn with vb
Hello,
> Hi everybody
> please, how i can finish this problem at mono:
This library does not exist in Mono, your application will not work with
Mono. Sorry about that.
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> I'm newbie here and I try to install mono on a dev server. It's a Suse Linux
> Entreprise Server 9.0 distrib. When I run a win app on the server, it's
> working well. But I have problem when I start the apache server to play web
> app. I receive the following error message in the apach
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Hello,
We are looking for some strong developers interested in joining the
Mono Windows Forms team at Novell.
What we are looking for:
* Win32 and/or X11 experience;
* GUI programming experience.
* Desire to implement lots of new widgets.
* Boston-ba
Hey,
If you have a project that uses Mono, or you have a project within
Mono we would love if you could talk about it at the Mono meeting.
It is a good way of exposing what you are doing, the status of your
project and find other groups to collaborate with.
If you would like to sched
Hey folks,
I think it would be a good idea to start doing the same thing that
the Linux kernel guys are doing: Certificates of Origin for patches.
This basically means that patches would have to contain the following
notice:
(This is copy pasted from http://linux.yyz.us/patch-format.h
Hello folks,
We have released Mono 1.1.17.1, it contains three small updates:
Fix HttpListener, it was failing with a few post operations
[Gonzalo Paniagua]
mono-service is now installed into the GAC, the recent
changes broke applications that created new AppD
Hello,
> You should take note that mono-service based program doesn't work with
> this version...
As I pointed out in the bug you filed, am unable to reproduce the
problem; Please update the bug.
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the 2.0 API. [Miguel de Icaza]
Gert added support for splitting the registry across user and system level
settings. [Gert Driesen]
mod_mono
Added support for X.509 client certificates. It's now possible to use
System.Web.HttpClientCertificate with Apache. Certificate validatio
d or have enough space.
> It works fine with Linux, but under Win32 it raises that exception.
>
> Thanks in advance for your support,
>
> Regards,
>
> Max
>
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Hello,
> > > The vbnc compiler is currently emitting 2.0 assemblies, and regarding
> > > the two issues for it to emit 1.0/1.1 assemblies the first one is the
> > > easiest (the only feature that would have to be disabled is generics,
> > > VB8 does not support directly nullable types like C# - an
Hello,
> I don't think just removing existing ones is good, since some 1.x
> applications might use MS.VB.dll and 1.x ASP.NET pages in VB. They
> are truly unsupported, but people might be using them in their
> live code. (New components only support 2.0, right?)
We will ship 1.0 and 2.0 assembli
Hello,
> Will the new compiler allow targeting of both 1.0 & 2.0 profile ? What I
> mean to say is, will there be something like vbnc/gbnc (bad name, I know) or
> a command line switch to specify whether to emit an assembly that references
> the 1.0 (1.1) or 2.0 system assemblies (and allow/disall
Hello,
> It's great to hear this is working out! Are there binary snapshots
> available of vbnc? Is there a website or somewhere the progress is
> tracked?
The code is on SVN, module `vbnc', currently you need an MS compiler to
bootstrap it, but in the next few days I will start working on putti
compiler written in VB.NET
> > itself, which is a very good test for the qualities of his compiler.
> >
> > This compiler is very close to bootstrapping and it is also able to
> > build these new class libraries (it can compile itself, and is missing
> > one tiny fea
itself, and is missing
> one tiny feature: embedding resources, to be self-hosting)
>
> Rolf effort is partially funded by Google Summer of Code program.
>
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Hello,
In the next couple of days, I will remove mbas, the Visual Basic
runtime and the various other incomplete forks of mbas that we have on
the mcs tree from the tree as they are outdated, no longer under
development, unmaintained and buggy.
We will replace this with two new components
Hello,
> Having more ready-to-use cross-platform libraries that fit such
> niches would help to that aspect (e.g. few really need a clone of an
> everchanging WSE but people might need some of the features
> independent of the API). Might it be possible to host something like
> http://www.
Hello,
> I don't feel any better then.
>
> From a developer standpoint as well as an end-user standpoint, I don't know
> whether I'm supposed to expect .NET to have much of a future outside
> Windows, in part or in whole. Until the answer to whether or not WinFX will
> be implemented on Mono is a
Hello,
> I like the simplicity and productivity of Mono, but I'm afraid how it's
> going to behave (in terms of efficiency) with the new hardware to come
> (4,8, or more processors in some years?).
It largely depends on how you write your code, Mono has very little to
say here.
If your code ca
Hello,
> It is portable enough to be functional - without COM, without WinForms,
> without EnterpriseServices. You're missing the point here - if any crucial
> changes are made in 3.5 that rely on 3.0, all subsequent versions will no
> longer be portable. Also, you've trimmed out a crucial point i
hello,
> > If you could point out something that you think is fundamentally
> > unimplementable, we could have a discussion about that feature.
> >
>
> I'm guessing certain aspects are already easier to implement than WinForms
> (due to things like the dispatcher replacing the message pump), b
Hello,
> Now the problem is this: if nearly all of .NET 2.0 is portable, and none of
> NET 3.0 is portable, and .NET 3.5 will have crucial changes like LinQ,
> there's no guarantee that .NET 3.5 onward won't depend on .NET 3.0,
> therefore making .NET unportable.
I have not seen anything in .NE
Hello,
> Not that minor details like this have stopped us from implementing the
> parts that *are* interesting (jchamber's COM interop work, P/Invoke),
> even if they're not portable (lupus quote: " P/Invoke is poorly defined
> in a non-win32 system.").
There is a lot more depth in the P/Invoke s
unning on mono ?
> Would be nice if be free too :D
>
> Cheers
>
> Arx Cruz
>
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> Is this going to be implemented soon, or should I try to limit my code
> with .NET 1.1 features?
We recommend that you stick to 1.1 until we officially release Mono 2.0
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> My Question: Should I implement my own bindings, if so how should I
> begin? Should I wait or begin writing on a MS computer?
Matjaz Mihelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> had a version of Gtk# bindings, but I
have not heard from him in a while.
I just noticed I had an email where he was asking i
Hello,
> I apoligize if it is a silly issue, but I couldn't find a way to add
> something to the wiki. Is it possible for anyone to contribute to the wiki?
> If not, how do I register?
The wiki is closed, only contributors have access to it.
But if you cook up a document we can upload it.
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Hello,
> OK, so I will rephrase my question to: whether someone in this list
> 'probably wants' phalanger and is interested in making changes like
> the way it was done for IronPython.
I managed to build the compiler (Phalanger), we have a copy of it with
Makefiles checked into
svn+ssh
Hello,
> Of course Phalanger is not important enough for Mono to support
> OFFICIALLY. There is nothing you can feel odd.
I want to clarify this.
Atsushi is correct that we do not provide support for Phalanger
ourselves. That is, we probably can not help you with answers on how
to use it.
But
Hello,
Both Phalanger, IronPython and Ruby.NET are interesting both from a
language perspective (they are one of the reasons we started to
implement Mono in the first place) and also because they exercise our
2.0 support.
Since our 2.0 support is not officially complete, if you want to ru
Hello,
> A really short question: i've problems with ironpython console since
> IronPython-beta8. Backspace is not working, arrows (commands history) is
> not working (i don't think the arrows were working anyway, but with
> beta-8 it's unusable).
>
> Do you have any solution to this? (inputrc
Hello,
> Oddly enough, loading our NUnit 2.4 test assemblies under a single domain
> causes it to fail. We're making it work under Mono by using Multiple
> AppDomains. So I assume the problem is more subtle than "never create more
> than one" I'll be interested in reading what the issues are.
The
Hello,
> Hi, I'm trying without any success to create a cairo pdfsurface..., I
> use ubuntu edgy witch come with libcairo2 (cairo-1.2),
> libmono-cairo1.0-cil and libmono-cairo2.0-cil. All properly installed.
>
> I use monodevelop and I don't know if I'm doing it right but in the
> reference pane
Hello,
> You don't understand what I wrote. *Every* bugs could block people.
> IF we write notes that "your code might not work if you use ..."
> with related to *every* bugs (EVEN IF it is possible), that
> web info becomes pretty useless because of such flood of extraneous
> information.
>
> Yo
Hello,
> > Feel free to augment the page with your experiences or with tools,
> > tricks and tips that might be useful to others.
>
> Probably add a suggestion to never create more than one AppDomain under Mono.
I will add the semantics of our current AppDomain behavior.
Miguel.
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Hello,
I have created a new page on the Wiki to serve as a tutorial to help
people who want to port their applications from Windows to Linux to have
a central location to look for information, the page is:
http://www.mono-project.com/Guidelines:Application_Portability
Feel free t
Hello,
> There are other frameworks that you can use without ASP.NET AFAIK, that
> Miguel has not mentioned (perhaps the ones he has mentioned are too tied
> to the AJAX-thing, I mean, they require JavaScript):
Thanks for the pointers, I have updated the FAQ:
http://www.mono-project.com/FAQ:_
Hello,
> Another question which is not related to the question above.
> Does anybody know a dtd file for ASP.NET to use it in my favorite
> html/xml editor?
Good timing for this question.
There is not a direct replacement for ASP.NET, but I think that there is
a window of opportunity for somethi
Hello,
> i can't have mod_mono to work with this feature...
> is there anyone who know how to get it working ?
Do you have a test case?
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> A table designer would require a lot of support from
> Mono.Data.Sql which MonoQuery uses for database object
> meta data. See the TODO fil. Feel free to update
> this file.
Is this something that can be implemented say, for a particular
backend?
Say, if the code could be done for P
Hello,
I should probably be more specific, here are a few things that would
be nice to add to the MonoQuery stuff:
* A table designer.
* A table explorer, once am connected to a database, it would be
nice to be able to see the tables defined in the database.
Hello,
> MonoDevelop IDE has a add-in called MonoQuery.
> However, MonoDevelop does not really work on Windows
> right now.
>
> http://www.monodevelop.org/
It is a shame that the MonoQuery component is not being actively
developed. I recently had the opportunity of trying it out on Visual
Stud
> I thought I'd give Atlas a try today. I read here that it is supported in
> Mono:
>http://www.xsltblog.com/archives/2005/09/ms_atlas_projec.html
There was some early work done on it, but it has not been maintained.
Atlas is still not finished and will remain a moving target, I do not
beli
hello,
> i ve solved my problem...
> i moved from gentoo 64bits to gentoo 32bits.. .
> and things seems going better...
That is very very strange.
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>
> i have installed a serveur entirely in aspx :
> http://www.dinosafari.net/
> but the cpu use on it is to high : http://dinosafari.net/graph/cpu
> on
> http://www.monzoo.net/
> which is written in php i can handle 10 times more players with the
> same
> cpu usage...
I could not se
Hey folks,
If you have a Linux/PPC host, could you confirm if this bug still
exists?
http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=77490
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Hello,
> where is the web site to purchase mono mugs, shirts, etc,
> to (1) get this stuff - i need some new clothes!, (2) donate some coin to the
> project.
> i checked mono site and novell (quickly), nothing is jumping out
> surely it can't be the case that this stuff doesn't exist?
I
Hello,
> I forgot to mention an alternative for the Data Access Application
> Block: Mono's Provider Factory [1]. It's part of every Mono
> installation and it's more powerful that the DAA Block, IMO.
>
> [1] http://mono-project.com/Provider_Factory
I added this comment to our FAQ:
http://www.m
> Does anyone know what the status of the CIL linker is and when/if a
> first test version will be released?
It is being worked on. Hopefully it will be ready by the end of the
summer.
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Hello,
Many times folks ask some questions on the mailing list, and
someone answers them. Am wondering if someone would be interested in
helping me maintain the FAQs on the Mono web site so that we can put
this information in a place that people could find more easily.
miguel
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Hello,
> Works fine, thank you!
>
> A simple "Hello world" System.Windows.Forms Win32 app can be compressed
> to less than 2.5 MB using mkbundle.
>
> Am I right to assume the CIL linker will drastically reduce the
> resulting executable size?
>
> What percentage of the 2.5 MB of the bundle is
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Hello,
> I get weird behaviour when using .NET 2.0 implementation of
> System.Console on xterm. Mono seems to save the screen content at
> application startup and restore it at the end, thus making impossible
> to read application's output (tested using Putty). However this does
> not happen when
Hello,
> 1. I'm looking for books/resources on development with monodevelop. I
> have found a few resources online but would appreciate more especially
> todo with stetic and the newest monodevelop.
The new stetic is work in progress, I think we should start building
some tutorials about how to
Hello,
> Could somebody give me a ballpark size of an installed Mono? Assuming
> its size varies depending on the platform it is installed on, on what
> platform is Mono the largest? What is that largest size?
It also depends on which components of Mono you use; You can have a
minimal install
Hello,
> What build tool do you use and/or what is the preferred build tool for
> Mono projects ?
> And I know there are a couple of choices available ... GNU Make, Ant,
> NAnt, Rake or MSBuild.
I like make the most myself.
MSBuild is not ready, I have never heard anyone using rake nor ant for
Hello,
> To sum up - did mono ask all authors of the "TokenStream.java" class
> to change the license from NPL 1.1 to MIT/X11 license or is it valid
> to "just" change from NPL to MIT/X11?
You need to obtain permission to get it under different terms, you can
not remove the terms of the original
Hello,
> Is there going to be a Mono birds of a feather or Mono meeting at Tech Ed
> next week in Boston like at PDC last September?
I had not thought about that; I did not even remember we had a TechEd
coming.
My guess is that they wont allow external BOFs again, but if there are
enough peopl
Hello,
> I couldn't find the release notes for Mono 1.1.13.8. Is it available
> somewhere?
I just posted them, thanks for the reminder:
http://www.go-mono.com/archive/1.1.13.8/
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> I am starting to write some apps with C# on mono and I need to be able to
> call the executeable directly instead of as "mono myapp.exe".
One portable approach (this means the solution will work on other Unix
systems, not only on Linux) is to create a shell script that calls mono
and you
Hello,
> I've started using Sqlite / NHibernate but I've fighting some troubles :
>
> -1- Mono does not include Sqlite.Net (I hope instead I lose lot of time
> ;-) ) :
> --> I've started a new Driver to Mono.Data.Sqlite ... (seems ok),
Mono includes Mono.Data.SqliteClient
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on: An exception was
> thrown
> by the type initializer for Mono.Unix.Native.Stdlib --->
> System.DllNotFoundExce
> ption: libMonoPosixHelper.so
>
> means what it says, libMonoPosixHelper.so was not found.
>
> Your best bet for getting help like this is to ask on the ma
Hello,
> I am an experienced C# programmer under Windows, but I am rather new
> to Linux and Mono. We are looking at our options under Linux to create
> a simple GUI application around a library and driver written in C that
> accesses proprietary hardware. It looks like Mono would fit the bill,
>
Hello,
> I'm looking for a database which can be embedded in my software ... I
> was wondering about FireBird ??
Firebird can be embedded, I set it up once (you might want to Google for
my blog, I believe I had some instructions there).
Alternatively, Sqlite is very very easy to embed.
> Also
Hello,
> Is there a document somewhere that targets this specific audience with
> information about the concerns for shared hosts?
We have not created this document, but we could create one based on the
questions and answers.
> We have plenty of disk with this host - is the Linux Installer an op
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