Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-31 Thread Victor Rocha
I guess this could be addressed with current Debian/Ubuntu mono packagers, who would be more knowledgeable on both technical and process details. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:24 PM, NokNok Developer develo...@noknok.net wrote: Ok, I will bite. Lets say we were willing to sponsor such an

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-21 Thread Ian Norton
Ive just been trying out the 2.10 debian packages, good so far except its only moonlight 2 so I built my own from trunk again Victor Rocha rocha.pu...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if someone in this list has any experience in fund-raising for open-source projects... well I´m certain there is

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-21 Thread NokNok Developer
Ok, I will bite. Lets say we were willing to sponsor such an effort, are there folks who would be willing to act as the maintainers? Keeping distribution in line with the current stable / beta / dev efforts ? I'd be willing to listen to ideas/proposals, its not just the money aspect, but also

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-17 Thread David Harper
and Jo Shields. Daniel is just asking the question, and I think it is a good question worth investigating. From: Bojan Rajkovic Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:24 PM To: mono-list Subject: Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support On May 16, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote: Currently all my volunteer

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-17 Thread Alan
exploring. Everybody is grateful for the efforts of Mirco Bauer and Jo Shields. Daniel is just asking the question, and I think it is a good question worth investigating. From: Bojan Rajkovic Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:24 PM To: mono-list Subject: Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support On May 16

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-17 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 21:43, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote: Currently all my volunteer time is going into Wide Margin. And I foresee it taking up all my time in the near future. However my suggestion is that the mono project drops open suse and instead supports ubuntu. This would

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-17 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 22:54, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote: How many of the mono team will want to continue to use an operation system from the company which has treated them so badly? Just to clarify, it wasn't openSUSE or SUSE that laid off the mono team. And to be technical, it

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-17 Thread David Harper
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:34 AM To: Daniel Hughes Cc: mono-list Subject: Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 22:54, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote: How many of the mono team will want to continue to use an operation system from the company which has treated them

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-17 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:58, David Harper dahar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen, I apologize, I lacked clarity in my previous post. The Ubuntu issue mentioned by Daniel is a real problem, we're always versions behind and it's frustrating. In light of the recent changes, it is worth

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-17 Thread David Harper
Subject: Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:58, David Harper dahar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen, I apologize, I lacked clarity in my previous post. The Ubuntu issue mentioned by Daniel is a real problem, we're always versions behind and it's frustrating. In light

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-17 Thread Thomas Mayer
Hi, I just wanted to add, that the guys and girls at Xamarin now have different priorities than to decide whether or not to change their default packaging system. They have to build a running business, have to migrate their infrastructure etc. Just my $0.02, Thomas -- When one's home has a

[Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Daniel Hughes
Now that Novell has been purchased by Attachmate and has laid off its mono developers. And a new mono company xamarin has been started which is not associated with open suse. Can we expect official ubuntu support going forward? Ubuntu represents a larger user base for mono then suse. It has 3

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Rodrigo Kumpera
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote: Now that Novell has been purchased by Attachmate and has laid off its mono developers. And a new mono company xamarin has been started which is not associated with open suse. Can we expect official ubuntu support

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Abe Gillespie
The other reality is the team seems to mostly prefer Mac OS X now. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Rodrigo Kumpera kump...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote: Now that Novell has been purchased by Attachmate and has laid off its mono

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Jonathan Pobst
On 5/16/2011 8:45 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote: Can we expect official ubuntu support going forward? How do you define official ubuntu support? The community has excellent Ubuntu packagers who know the best way to package Mono for Ubuntu, and submit these packages for inclusion in the official

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Daniel Hughes
I looking for upto date packages, Im still waiting for 2.8 packages and 2.10 packages. So what I'm looking for is when a new version of mono is released on the same day the new Ubuntu packages are available. Not a year or two or three later. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jonathan Pobst

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Daniel Hughes
Currently all my volunteer time is going into Wide Margin. And I foresee it taking up all my time in the near future. However my suggestion is that the mono project drops open suse and instead supports ubuntu. This would require no extra effort. And would get the latest mono to a larger user

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Bojan Rajkovic
On May 16, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Daniel Hughes wrote: Currently all my volunteer time is going into Wide Margin. And I foresee it taking up all my time in the near future. However my suggestion is that the mono project drops open suse and instead supports ubuntu. This would require no

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Daniel Hughes
How many of the mono team will want to continue to use an operation system from the company which has treated them so badly? I guess only time will tell. By the way I want to say a big thanks for the work that Mirco Bauer (meebey) and Jo Shields (directhex) does, I have thanked directhex many

Re: [Mono-list] ubuntu support

2011-05-16 Thread Daniel Hughes
Just in case anyone cares about the numbers. The stats from Wikimedia (think Wikipedia users) for market share are as follows: Ubuntu: 0.72% market share Open SUSE: 0.05% of market share So ubuntu has 14 times more users then Open SUSE. That's an order of magnitude more users!