[Mono-list] Monodoc dies raising gtkhtml exception.

2004-04-01 Thread Roberto Jimeno
Hi all,

The problem started when I downgraded from version 0.30 to 0.29, but
it is still present even though I have already re-upgraded to version
0.30. Some of installed RPM packages that might be relevant are
monodoc-0.11-0.ximian.6.0 and gtkhtml3.0-3.0.5-0.ximian.6.2. My Linux
distribution is Red Hat 9.

Please have a look at what happens:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]$ monodoc
 
Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: gtkhtml-3.0
in 0x00053 (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.HTML:gtk_html_new ()
in 0x0003c Gtk.HTML:.ctor ()
in [0x001aa] (at
/tmp/bb-daemon.11458/mono-conf/monodoc/BUILD/monodoc-0.11/browser/browser.cs:209) 
Monodoc.Browser:.ctor ()
in [0x0014a] (at
/tmp/bb-daemon.11458/mono-conf/monodoc/BUILD/monodoc-0.11/browser/browser.cs:81) 
Monodoc.Driver:Main (string[])
 


Any help will be welcome.
Thanks.


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Re: [Mono-list] C# SOAP implementation - AXIS

2004-04-01 Thread Ales Pour
 From: Mahen Perera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 As u have already mentioned, the existing ASP.net web services
architecture is tightly integrated
 to .NET and cannot run without IIS. AXIS, on the other hand is an Open
Souce effort and will run on the

BTW, this is not quite true - you do not need IIS _at all_. All requests to
ASP.NET are just passed to (.NET's) HttpRuntime, IIS - more or less - only
provides HTTP transport to ASP.NET. You can easily write your own transport,
be it HTTP (eg. Cassini project), or anything else (eg. some MQ).

Regards,
Ales Pour

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Re: [Mono-list] C# SOAP implementation - AXIS

2004-04-01 Thread Jonathan Pryor
Below...

On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 23:57, Mahen Perera wrote:
snip/
 As u have already mentioned, the existing ASP.net web services
 architecture is tightly integrated to .NET and cannot run without IIS.
 AXIS, on the other hand is an Open Souce effort and will run on the
 Apache Web server. What i am proposing is to have another SOAP
 implementation (in C#) as an add-on to MONO, which follows the AXIS
 architecture. 

As Ales Pour already mentioned, this is incorrect.  IIS is not needed. 
For example, mod_mono and xsp.exe are two separate ASP.NET hosting
environments developed by Mono.  (xsp.exe was the original test
container, useful for testing, and mod_mono is an Apache module for
hosting ASP.NET.)

 In developing AXIS C#, we hope to use the WSDL parser in
 System.Web.Services namespace and the XML Pull parser in System.Xml
 namespace (already implemented in MONO). Since we are following AXIS,
 we will have a server.wsdd file to configure the AXIS engine and
 follow similar architectural principles (such as having handlers
 to as a means of adding external components offline, in to the main
 AXIS message flow). Further to this, as I mentioned earlier, current
 AXIS users will find it easy to switch to the AXIS C#. 

Existing AXIS users may find this useful, but I doubt that existing
ASP.NET users would.  Just my $0.02...

 Hope this will answer your Q. 
 
 Hoping for positive replies
 
 Mahen
 
 PS: I would like to know whether the support for creating and managing
 Application Domains

AppDomain support is...flaky.  You can create AppDomains, and run code
in them, but unloading them...tends to break things.  Zoltan added a
patch to ignore AppDomain.Unload() when the MONO_NO_UNLOAD environment
variable is set on March 24, so that existing code (NAnt) would continue
to function properly until the underlying AppDomain issues were
resolved.  I don't think this made it into 0.31, though.

So, until the bugs are fixed (which is until the next release, *at
least*), avoid AppDomain.Unload(). :-)

snip/

 - Jon


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[Mono-list] Problems with 0.31 RE (Killed)

2004-04-01 Thread Hinrich Aue
I installed the latest version (0.31) from source.
That's a bit tricky sometimes, because sometimes
it complains when doing make install.
(mono and mcs) before that I've been using 0.30.2.
mcs and mono compiles fine.
mcs even compiles my small C# program.
But when I start it with mono programm.exe
I get the message Killed.
When I do mono -v programm.exe I get :

mono -v mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe
Method (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Object:__icall_wrapper_mono_ldftn 
(intptr) emitted at 0x41322000 to 0x41322037 [mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method (wrapper managed-to-native) 
System.Object:__icall_wrapper_mono_thread_get_pending_exception () emitted at 
0x41322038 to 0x41322068 [mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method (wrapper runtime-invoke) System.OutOfMemoryException:.ctor 
(object,intptr,intptr) emitted at 0x41322070 to 0x413220ff 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.OutOfMemoryException:.ctor () emitted at 0x41322100 to 
0x41322140 [mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method Locale:GetText (string) emitted at 0x41322148 to 0x41322150 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.SystemException:.ctor (string) emitted at 0x41322158 to 
0x4132217f [mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.Exception:.ctor (string) emitted at 0x41322180 to 0x413221e1 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.Object:.ctor () emitted at 0x413221e8 to 0x413221ed 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.MonoType:get_FullName () emitted at 0x413221f0 to 0x4132220a 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method (wrapper managed-to-native) System.MonoType:getFullName () emitted at 
0x41322210 to 0x41322247 [mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.Exception:set_HResult (int) emitted at 0x41322248 to 0x41322256 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method (wrapper runtime-invoke) System.NullReferenceException:.ctor 
(object,intptr,intptr) emitted at 0x41322258 to 0x413222e7 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.NullReferenceException:.ctor () emitted at 0x413222e8 to 
0x41322328 [mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method (wrapper runtime-invoke) System.StackOverflowException:.ctor 
(object,intptr,intptr) emitted at 0x41322330 to 0x413223bf 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.StackOverflowException:.ctor () emitted at 0x413223c0 to 
0x413223ee [mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
cannot open assembly mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe
Method (wrapper runtime-invoke) System.Threading.Thread:Finalize 
(object,intptr,intptr) emitted at 0x413223f0 to 0x4132247f 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method (wrapper runtime-invoke) System.Threading.Thread:.cctor 
(object,intptr,intptr) emitted at 0x41322480 to 0x41322500 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.Threading.Thread:.cctor () emitted at 0x41322508 to 0x41322515 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.Threading.Thread:Finalize () emitted at 0x41322518 to 0x41322550 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method (wrapper managed-to-native) 
System.Threading.Thread:Thread_free_internal (intptr) emitted at 0x41322558 
to 0x4132258f [mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
Method System.Object:Finalize () emitted at 0x41322590 to 0x413225a5 
[mysqltest_0.1_30.03.2004.exe]
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Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Hinrich
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Re: [Mono-list] C# SOAP implementation - AXIS

2004-04-01 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 05:57, Mahen Perera wrote:

 Thanx for the reply. Yes, I am aware about the current developments in
 MONO in the classes under System.Web.Services namespace and the
 existing Web Services architecture based around ASP.NET and building
 on its support for XML and SOAP serialization in the .NET framework. 
 
 As u have already mentioned, the existing ASP.net web services
 architecture is tightly integrated to .NET and cannot run without IIS.
 AXIS, on the other hand is an Open Souce effort and will run on the
 Apache Web server. What i am proposing is to have another SOAP
 implementation (in C#) as an add-on to MONO, which follows the AXIS
 architecture. 
 

As Ales points out the IIS connection is not absolute, infact I am
pretty certain that you could get Apache to serve .NET web services by
setting a handler for .asmx files that uses the ASP.NET runtime
component (check out the script map on IIS for more details on this). 
Infact mono, via the mod_mono apache module and/or xsp, can server
ASP.NET web services through Apache already as Jonathan Pryor notes.

 In developing AXIS C#, we hope to use the WSDL parser in
 System.Web.Services namespace and the XML Pull parser in System.Xml
 namespace (already implemented in MONO). Since we are following AXIS,
 we will have a server.wsdd file to configure the AXIS engine and
 follow similar architectural principles (such as having handlers
 to as a means of adding external components offline, in to the main
 AXIS message flow). Further to this, as I mentioned earlier, current
 AXIS users will find it easy to switch to the AXIS C#. 
 

Personally I'm still not convinced,  there is a difference between Java
and C# in the respect that with C# you have the services provided by the
.NET framework, which includes, as we have already agreed, an
architecture for Web Services, with Java (or indeed C++) you have no
such implicit support for these things, so you need something like Axis.

Now if it was me who was looking to create an alternate web services
architecture for the .NET framework I would certainly start by looking
to reuse as much of the System.Web.Services classes as I possibly could
in order that I didn't end up creating something that behaved contrary
to the expectations raised by the rest of the platform: a cursory glance
at the code in System.Web.Services.Protocols would suggest that some of
these classes could be extended to provide something more like Axis.  I
think by starting with the parser you are only going to make more work
for yourself.


 Hope this will answer your Q. 
 
 Hoping for positive replies
 
 Mahen
 
 PS: I would like to know whether the support for creating and managing
 Application Domains
 
 is implemeted in MONO.  
 
  
 
 From: Jonathan Stowe 
 
 
 To: Mahen Perera 
 CC: Mono-List 
 Subject: Re: [Mono-list] C# SOAP implementation - AXIS 
 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:22:39 +0100 
  
 On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 06:32, Mahen Perera wrote: 
   Hi all! 
   
   We are a team involved in developing an implementation of  SOAP
 using C#, in 
   the .NET framework. We are still in the early stages. 
   
  
 I'm probably missing some subtlety here but the .NET framework
 already 
 implements SOAP, I'm not quite sure what there is to implement here. 
  
   We would like to contribute towards MONO with this regard.
 Therefore we are 
   interested in finding out what are the plans with regard to having
 a SOAP 
   implementation in MONO. 
   
  
 Mono has an implementation of the System.Web.Services classes and it 
 appears from 
  
http://www.go-mono.com/class-status-System.Web.Services.html 
  
 that this is largely complete.  Again I might be misunderstanding
 what 
 you are planning on doing. 
  
   We hope to follow the APACHE AXIS architecture in developing our
 SOAP 
   engine. This will enable users who are familiar with AXIS
 Java/AXIS C++ to 
   swich over to our SOAP implementation with ease. Further to this,
 there will 
   be many other advantages provided by AXIS. 
   
  
 THe .NET Framework has its own Web Services architecture based around
 ASP.NET and building on its support for XML and SOAP serialization,
 it 
 is a fairly different approach to that taken by Axis but as I see it 
 this is largely due to to it's degree of integration and dependency
 on 
 the framework as a whole. 
  
 /J\ 
   We like to know ur ideas! 
   
   Hoping for a positive reply... 
   
   Mahen 
   
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[Mono-list] Starting processes with parameters from Mono 0.31 and mono-0.31.99.20040331

2004-04-01 Thread Vadim B. Guzev
Hello!


I've seen somewhere in the list before (but I can't find this letter now,
when I really need it :( ) that someone had problems with starting processes
with parameters from Mono 0.31. Was this problem solved?

I have the same problem now, as even the following simple application
doesn't work anymore in Mono 0.31 (it worked correctly in Mono 0.29):
8--
using System;
using System.Diagnostics;

class ProcessStart {
 static void Main(string[] args) {
  Console.Out.WriteLine(Trying to start: 'mono --version');
  ProcessStartInfo psi = new ProcessStartInfo();
  psi.FileName = mono;
  psi.Arguments = --version;

  Process p = new Process();
  p.Start( psi );
 }
}

8--

Instead of printing the version - it prints now the help for parameters
usage...
I've checked and the specified parameters (--version) are not passed to
the target program (mono) at all... Is there any workaround for this
problem?

I've tried the daily package mono-0.31.99.20040331.tar.gz, but it seems to
me, that method Process.Start doesn't work at all in this version ... even
without parameters... :(
What's happening?


Best regards,
Vadim B. Guzev



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Re: [Mono-list] Starting processes with parameters from Mono 0.31 and mono-0.31.99.20040331

2004-04-01 Thread Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 15:36, Vadim B. Guzev wrote:
 Hello!
 
 
 I've seen somewhere in the list before (but I can't find this letter now,
 when I really need it :( ) that someone had problems with starting processes
 with parameters from Mono 0.31. Was this problem solved?
 
 I have the same problem now, as even the following simple application
 doesn't work anymore in Mono 0.31 (it worked correctly in Mono 0.29):
 8--
 using System;
 using System.Diagnostics;
 
 class ProcessStart {
  static void Main(string[] args) {
   Console.Out.WriteLine(Trying to start: 'mono --version');
   ProcessStartInfo psi = new ProcessStartInfo();
   psi.FileName = mono;
   psi.Arguments = --version;
 
   Process p = new Process();
   p.Start( psi );
  }
 }

add:

psi.UseShellExecute = false;

and it will work.

-Gonzalo

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[Mono-list] Mono Download Page Changes

2004-04-01 Thread Kevin Breit
Hey,
I'm proposing that we change the Mono download page a bit.  Currently,
we only have the core Mono downloads listed, which is bad news for other
projects such as MonoDevelop.  To remedy this, I propose that we have a
2nd download page called Third-Party Downloads or Mono Extras (I
prefer the latter).  The new download page would be on the left
navigation and both download pages would link to each other.
How does this sound to everyone?

Kevin Breit

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[Mono-list] April 1st: from TechSpeak to PlaneSpeak

2004-04-01 Thread Eamon O'Tuathail
Since its April 1st, may I post one message about patents? 

[If you have any comment to make on the following, feel free to email me
directly. Please do not send a follow-up posting to the mono list, as the
topic of patents has be discussed so often here it is boring many people on
the list. The archives are full of patent discussions.]

 - o - 

It seems free expressionists from April 1st in the year 2084 have
discovered a new way to explain software patents to
non-software authors. It is called PlaneSpeak. They demonstrate it by
examining the Microsoft .NET API Patent: 

http://www.clipcode.cc/books/id/001/chapter05.html

More musings from the futuristic free expressionists will appear regularly
here:

http://www.clipcode.cc/books/id/001/index.html

 - o - 

On a more serious note, it was mentioned on the mono list last month that
the Novell legal folks are conducting a review of patent issues surrounding
MONO: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4557

It is a joy to watch Novell legal handle SCO (follow the fun at groklaw.net:
e.g. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040326223857634) There is no
doubt they will leave no stone unturned in their quest to assist MONO. The
free expressionists from April 1st, 2084 would like to nudge Novell Legal to
first look under the imaginary stone cryptically marked:

35.102.b @ 0-201-73411-7 @ p.xv[i|ii]  jun2200  jul1100  37 C.F.R. 1.56

They will understand. Perhaps during their patent review they could
determine whether this is important or silly.

 - o - 

I suggest we all hold off on commenting on patents/MONO until the Novell
legal professionals conclude their review and give us their legal opinion. 

Eamon

 - o -

Legal people should be able to understand the above cryptic hint on their
own -  so don't show them what follows. 

Software authors might need some help.

35.102.b is part of the U.S. patent law:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/35/102.html
It states: A person shall be entitled to a patent unless - ...
(b) the invention was ... in public use .. more than one year prior to the
date of the application for patent in the United States

jul1100 refers to July 11th, 2000 (first day of the 2000 PDC, not by
co-incidence - the date of the official .NET launch to software authors).
This is a year prior to the filing date for the Microsoft .NET API patent,
20030028685, on July 10, 2001 (if you look in the patent after the claim
text, you will see it is a continuation of an application with that date). 
 
0-201-73411-7 is the ISBN for Don Box's excellent Essential .NET book. 
In the preface, page xvii refers to an event a few years earlier and states:
In 1998, Microsoft held a Professional Developer's Conference (PDC) in San
Diego. COM luminary Charlie Kindle stood up in a general session and
proclaimed no more GUIDs - no more HRESULTs - no more IUnknown. He and
Mary Kirtland proceeded to show the basic architecture of the CLR, then
known as COM+ Runtime. Later in the session, Nat Brown and David Stutz stood
up and demonstrated cross-language inheritance using Visual Basic and Java.
Attendees actually went home with CDs containing primitive versions of
compilers that could reproduce this very odd demonstration. It is now
February 2002, and this technology has finally shipped in release form.
[An aside: anyone recall a MSJ article (a 'printed publication') by Kirtland
around the same time?]

jun2200 is the date June 22nd, 2000, which is when the marketing launch of
.NET occurred, at an event known as Forum 2000. Critically it is a few days
more that 365 days prior to July 10, 2001. Did public use of .NET occur at
this event? Read both of these to see:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2000/Jun00/ForumUmbrellaPR.asp
http://www.dnjonline.com/newsreel/MicrosoftNET.html
(or ask any of the many journalists/analysts who attended and saw for
themselves)

C.F.R. 1.56 refers to Chapter 37 of the Code of Federal Regulations has a
section entitled:
37 C.F.R. 1.56, Duty to disclose information material to patentability
http://www.bitlaw.com/source/37cfr/1_56.html
and it says the inventor(s) and individuals associated with the patent
filing (e.g. company executives) must tell all when applying for a patent.
It is for the patent examiner, not the applicant, to decide whether it is
important. If the applicant were to conveniently forget to mention
something, then a granted patent can be invalidated. Do Mr. Gates and other
Microsoft executives demonstrating on June 22nd, 2000 have a duty of
disclosure to tell the patent office what they did on that day (e.g. does a
video tape exist of the presentation?). 

Page xvi of Mr. Box's book contains a forward by a Mr. Jim Miller (whose
name appears as an inventor on the .NET API patent) saying he has read Don
Box's book and highly recommends it (I second that recommendation). The fact
that Mr. 

Re: [Mono-list] Mono Download Page Changes

2004-04-01 Thread Ben Maurer
Hey Kevin,

I think it would be better to have a title `Stuff that works on mono'
(not that exactly, but something like that).

We could combine this page with the ports section we have right now.

So what I would imagine is a layout much like the existing Ports page --
you have a screenshot of each application on the left, with a short
description on the right and a link.

Eventually, we could make this into a directoryish thing (sorta like
GNOME has on their website).

-- Ben

On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 09:03, Kevin Breit wrote:
 Hey,
   I'm proposing that we change the Mono download page a bit.  Currently,
 we only have the core Mono downloads listed, which is bad news for other
 projects such as MonoDevelop.  To remedy this, I propose that we have a
 2nd download page called Third-Party Downloads or Mono Extras (I
 prefer the latter).  The new download page would be on the left
 navigation and both download pages would link to each other.
   How does this sound to everyone?
 
 Kevin Breit
 
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[Mono-list] Mono on Debian

2004-04-01 Thread Patrick Kirk
Hi all,

Does anyone have an up to date link for Mono on debian?  debianplanet 
seems to have gone off air about a week ago.

Patrick

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Re: [Mono-list] Mono on Debian

2004-04-01 Thread Marco Canini
IIRC packages are in debian unstable now.

Cheers

On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 17:30 +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone have an up to date link for Mono on debian?  debianplanet 
 seems to have gone off air about a week ago.
 
 Patrick
 
 
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[Mono-list] Documentation - how do I offer help?

2004-04-01 Thread Patrick Kirk
The documentation on the go-mono page needs attention.  If anyone's 
interested, I'd like to help.

Patrick Kirk
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Re: [Mono-list] Mono on Debian

2004-04-01 Thread christophe barbe
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 06:33:53PM +0200, Marco Canini wrote:
 IIRC packages are in debian unstable now.

For x86 only.

Christophe

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[Mono-list] Installing mono - without su rights

2004-04-01 Thread Tom Wilkie
Hi there

I don't know if this can be done - I assume it can.

I have access to a linux box on the web, just a user account, and I 
wanted to install mono on it.  I managed to get glib and pkgconfig 
compiled and installed under ~/mono/ and have set $LD_LIBRARY_PATH to 
/home/tw275/mono/lib and $LDFLAGS to -L/home/tw275/mono/lib and 
./configure'd every thing with --PREFIX=/home/tw275/mono but when I do 
a make, I get this error:

Making all in monoburg
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/tw275/mono/mono-0.31/mono/monoburg'
bison ./monoburg.y -o parser.c
gcc -o monoburg ./monoburg.c parser.c -pthread 
-I/home/tw275/mono/include/glib-2.0 
-I/home/tw275/mono/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I.  -pthread 
-L/home/tw275/mono/lib -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0
./monoburg ./sample.brg  sample.c
./monoburg: error while loading shared libraries: libgthread-2.0.so.0: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
make[3]: *** [sample.c] Error 127
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/tw275/mono/mono-0.31/mono/monoburg'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tw275/mono/mono-0.31/mono'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tw275/mono/mono-0.31'
make: *** [all] Error 2

I have checked in the /home/tw275/mono/lib/ directory and 
libgthread-2.0.so.0 exists.  What have I done wrong?

I couldn't get mono to work on my mac, so I thought I'd try on this 
linux box.  I have sftp and ssh access to it. It runs debian, but i 
can't use apt-get because I don;t have su rights ;-)  I think the 
kernel is  2.4.25 but I can;t be sure, they may have updated recently.

Any one help?  Thanks.

Tom

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Re: [Mono-list] Mono Download Page Changes

2004-04-01 Thread Todd Berman
While I agree this would be nice, I think what kevin is recommending is
more reasonable.

You also must keep in mind that the gnome software map covers all sorts
of gnome apps, regardless of their official 'gnome' status. However, I
consider things like gtk-sharp, monodoc, gecko-sharp, monodevelop, etc
to be more tied into the mono project than just 'this application uses
mono'. All of them are done by mono developers, and cluttering the
mono download page with applications and libraries seems like the
wrong thing to do in the endrun.

Personally, I see a need for both solutions, however one should happen
relatively soon, where as the other would be nice in the long term.

--Todd

On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:38 -0500, Ben Maurer wrote:
 Hey Kevin,
 
 I think it would be better to have a title `Stuff that works on mono'
 (not that exactly, but something like that).
 
 We could combine this page with the ports section we have right now.
 
 So what I would imagine is a layout much like the existing Ports page --
 you have a screenshot of each application on the left, with a short
 description on the right and a link.
 
 Eventually, we could make this into a directoryish thing (sorta like
 GNOME has on their website).
 
 -- Ben
 
 On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 09:03, Kevin Breit wrote:
  Hey,
  I'm proposing that we change the Mono download page a bit.  Currently,
  we only have the core Mono downloads listed, which is bad news for other
  projects such as MonoDevelop.  To remedy this, I propose that we have a
  2nd download page called Third-Party Downloads or Mono Extras (I
  prefer the latter).  The new download page would be on the left
  navigation and both download pages would link to each other.
  How does this sound to everyone?
  
  Kevin Breit
  
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Re: [Mono-list] Mono Download Page Changes

2004-04-01 Thread Todd Berman
Oh, keep in mind as well that these projects being proposed all use
mono-cvs for revision control, bugzilla.ximian.com for bug tracking, and
lists.ximian.com for mailing lists, and go-mono.com/archive/ for
distribution. So the distinction between 'Works with mono' and 'Mono
Extras' is still there outside of a web page.

--Todd

On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 15:05 -0500, Todd Berman wrote:
 While I agree this would be nice, I think what kevin is recommending is
 more reasonable.
 
 You also must keep in mind that the gnome software map covers all sorts
 of gnome apps, regardless of their official 'gnome' status. However, I
 consider things like gtk-sharp, monodoc, gecko-sharp, monodevelop, etc
 to be more tied into the mono project than just 'this application uses
 mono'. All of them are done by mono developers, and cluttering the
 mono download page with applications and libraries seems like the
 wrong thing to do in the endrun.
 
 Personally, I see a need for both solutions, however one should happen
 relatively soon, where as the other would be nice in the long term.
 
 --Todd
 
 On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:38 -0500, Ben Maurer wrote:
  Hey Kevin,
  
  I think it would be better to have a title `Stuff that works on mono'
  (not that exactly, but something like that).
  
  We could combine this page with the ports section we have right now.
  
  So what I would imagine is a layout much like the existing Ports page --
  you have a screenshot of each application on the left, with a short
  description on the right and a link.
  
  Eventually, we could make this into a directoryish thing (sorta like
  GNOME has on their website).
  
  -- Ben
  
  On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 09:03, Kevin Breit wrote:
   Hey,
 I'm proposing that we change the Mono download page a bit.  Currently,
   we only have the core Mono downloads listed, which is bad news for other
   projects such as MonoDevelop.  To remedy this, I propose that we have a
   2nd download page called Third-Party Downloads or Mono Extras (I
   prefer the latter).  The new download page would be on the left
   navigation and both download pages would link to each other.
 How does this sound to everyone?
   
   Kevin Breit
   
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Re: [Mono-list] Starting processes with parameters from Mono 0.31 and mono-0.31.99.20040331

2004-04-01 Thread vguzev
add:

   psi.UseShellExecute = false;

and it will work.

Hmmm it doesn't work with UseShellExecute=false too... :(

8-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processstart]$ cat ProcessStart.cs
using System;
using System.Diagnostics;

class ProcessStart {
 static void Main(string[] args) {
  Console.Out.WriteLine(Trying to start: 'mono --version');
  ProcessStartInfo psi = new ProcessStartInfo();
  psi.FileName = mono;
  psi.UseShellExecute = false;
  psi.Arguments = --version;

  Process p = new Process();
  p.Start( psi );
 }
}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processstart]$ mcs ProcessStart.cs
Compilation succeeded
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processstart]$ mono --version
Mono JIT compiler version 0.31.99.20040331, (C) 2002-2004 Novell, Inc and Contri
butors. www.go-mono.com
TLS:   normal
GC:Included Boehm (with typed GC)
SIGSEGV  : normal
Globalization: none
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processstart]$ mono ProcessStart.exe
Trying to start: 'mono --version'
8-

Anything else?


Best regards,
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Re: [Mono-list] Starting processes with parameters from Mono 0.31 and mono-0.31.99.20040331

2004-04-01 Thread vguzev
add:

   psi.UseShellExecute = false;

and it will work.

Hmmm it doesn't work with UseShellExecute=false too... :(

8-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processstart]$ cat ProcessStart.cs
using System;
using System.Diagnostics;

class ProcessStart {
 static void Main(string[] args) {
  Console.Out.WriteLine(Trying to start: 'mono --version');
  ProcessStartInfo psi = new ProcessStartInfo();
  psi.FileName = mono;
  psi.UseShellExecute = false;
  psi.Arguments = --version;

  Process p = new Process();
  p.Start( psi );
 }
}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processstart]$ mcs ProcessStart.cs
Compilation succeeded
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processstart]$ mono --version
Mono JIT compiler version 0.31.99.20040331, (C) 2002-2004 Novell, Inc and Contri
butors. www.go-mono.com
TLS:   normal
GC:Included Boehm (with typed GC)
SIGSEGV  : normal
Globalization: none
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processstart]$ mono ProcessStart.exe
Trying to start: 'mono --version'
8-

Anything else?


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[Mono-list] Debugger problem

2004-04-01 Thread Scott Boston
Hello - 

I've run into a couple of issues with the mono debugger that I'd
appreciate some help with.  

First, to get it to make I had to configure with --disable-readline. 
What do I lose by doing this?  How do I work around it?  I do have a
/usr/lib/libreadline.so.

Second, every time I try to run the debugger, from the command line or
from MonoDevelop, I get this error:
** ERROR **: i386-linux-ptrace.c:282: Can't open (/proc/26251/mem): No
such file or directory
aborting...

Any ideas?

Thanks much,
Scott Boston


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