Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-10-01 Thread Ralf Reiterer
This kind of thread seems to pop up quarterly or semiannually. I long for a mono-fud or mono-patents or some such mailing list to keep this from cluttering the main list. You should not underestimate the importance of this issue as it is one of the *few* arguments that Mono/.NET opponents

Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-10-01 Thread Marcus
These issues about patents could be said about every piece of software out there. On Saturday 01 October 2005 3:46 pm, Ralf Reiterer wrote: This kind of thread seems to pop up quarterly or semiannually. I long for a mono-fud or mono-patents or some such mailing list to keep this from

[Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-30 Thread Robert Jordan
Ralf Reiterer wrote: Therefore my conclusion is that any serious .NET application or library will (almost) always need more than the CLI API actually provides. However nobody seems to care about that fine detail and believe that when the CLI can be used for free, (at least) the Mono Stack is

Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-30 Thread Marcus
This kind of thread seems to pop up quarterly or semiannually. I long for a mono-fud or mono-patents or some such mailing list to keep this from cluttering the main list. On Friday 30 September 2005 8:20 am, Robert Jordan wrote: It's really useless to talk about patents. It's even unclear

[Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Robert Jordan
Hi Alexandu, Before calling me a troll that spreads FUD, first read the wikipedia definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUD As you saw already, I have good reasons and proofs for my statements (it's fucking obvious). It's your turn. Please provide evidence that the ECMA/ISO parts are royalty

Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Adrian Dinu
One thing I don't understand is where the heck all this hostility comes from. He could have started a simple argument/discussion about the legal implications of the M$/Mono relationship. Instead he decided to basically flame the Mono devs and users using some over-the-top language trying to

Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Peter Dennis Bartok
One thing I don't understand is where the heck all this hostility comes from. He could have started a simple argument/discussion about the Based on his language and posts from his address to other forums it seems he is just a teenager dabbling in php and java. I wouldn't take it too serious.

RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Alex Kriegel
in the USA, by the same whining idiots... Including the C# specification. -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Jordan Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:54 AM To: Mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono

RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Adrian Dinu
]] On Behalf Of Robert Jordan Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:54 AM To: Mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again Hi Alexandu, Before calling me a troll that spreads FUD, first read the wikipedia definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUD As you saw

RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Matthias Kestenholz
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Jordan Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:54 AM To: Mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again Hi Alexandu, Before calling me a troll that spreads FUD, first read

RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Alex Kriegel
: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:45 AM To: Alex Kriegel; mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again You should probably read all emails twice before replying. Nobody said that americans are whining idiots. Thanks for listening. On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 10:38

[Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Robert Jordan
Hi Alex, Regardless of your convictions, it is hardly do you any honour to refer to Americans as whining idiots. Especially on this list. Huh? Please read the post: I'm pretty sure you're not living in the US, so why are you whining like an idiot? Rob

RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Adrian Dinu
? BTW: I am Canadian, but hate to see indiscriminate bashing. -Original Message- From: Matthias Kestenholz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:45 AM To: Alex Kriegel; mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again You

RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Alex Kriegel
: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Matthias Kestenholz'; mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again Obviously, the poster has recognized by the name of the person that he is Romanian, so probably he doesn't live in the US

Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Kornél Pál
: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again Hi Alex, Regardless of your convictions, it is hardly do you any honour to refer to Americans as whining idiots. Especially on this list. Huh? Please read the post: I'm pretty sure you're not living

Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Michael
or what nation is more stupid that the others. Kornél - Original Message - From: Robert Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mono-list@lists.ximian.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again Hi Alex, Regardless of your convictions

Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Thomsen
Having just skim read his post, I think you have greatly maligned teenagers who dabble in software development... On 9/28/05, Peter Dennis Bartok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I don't understand is where the heck all this hostility comes from. He could have started a simple

Re: [Mono-list] Re: On Mono and Patents ... again

2005-09-28 Thread Pablo Baena
I don't usually respond to aggresive mails, but I only wanted to say, that the failure of OS/2 was because of thousands of reasons, and I'm sure that having windows compatibility wasn't one of them for the most part. Educate yourself a little further: