Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 07:43, Derek Scherger wrote: Also for ls known and ls unknown, I would really like it if pathnames were relative to the current directory, not the base directory, ie: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tree/config/include$ mtn ls known . include include/config.sh

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 07:43, Derek Scherger wrote: As far as optionally enabling/disabling recursive support goes, I'm not sure a --recursive option entirely makes sense. ls unknown is still generally recursive, just not in the case of unknown directories so I'm not sure what the

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:19:23AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.monotone.devel/7636 and around. He was arguing about confused users and about consistency. Me personally, I was not convinced. Instead, I was confused when I had to learn

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Brian May
Nathaniel == Nathaniel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nathaniel So you argue that all paths monotone prints out, from Nathaniel all commands including e.g. 'status', should always be Nathaniel relative to the cwd? I would like this. It makes it more consistent IMHO. It also makes

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Zbynek Winkler
On 11/29/06, Nathaniel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:19:23AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.monotone.devel/7636 and around. He was arguing about confused users and about consistency. Me personally, I was not

[Monotone-devel] Re: European MTN Summit

2006-11-29 Thread Lapo Luchini
Thomas Keller wrote: I'm definitely for a), and as the MtnSummit page states I'd favorite some date in mid February. The question where we should meet could be answered quickly with Germany! since many of us come from there, but personally, I'd also like to go a little to the South, like

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Brian May
Thomas == Thomas Moschny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas On Wednesday 29 November 2006 07:43, Derek Scherger wrote: As far as optionally enabling/disabling recursive support goes, I'm not sure a --recursive option entirely makes sense. ls unknown is still generally recursive,

[Monotone-devel] Re: [ANNOUNCE] North America Mtn Summit: Feb. 5-11 2007, Mountain View

2006-11-29 Thread Lapo Luchini
Nathaniel Smith wrote: Okay, time to just go for it. I hereby declare that Mtn Summit 2007, North American edition, will be held February 5-11 in Mountain View. Yay!!! I can finally finalize my travel logistics ;-) Unfortunately the he 410 EUR Delta flight MXP-SFO seems to be no more (now at

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread hendrik
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 08:24:49PM +1100, Brian May wrote: Thomas == Thomas Moschny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas On Wednesday 29 November 2006 07:43, Derek Scherger wrote: As far as optionally enabling/disabling recursive support goes, I'm not sure a --recursive option

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread hendrik
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 11:07:13AM +0100, Zbynek Winkler wrote: On 11/29/06, Nathaniel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:19:23AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.monotone.devel/7636 and around. He was arguing about

[Monotone-devel] Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Boris
I'm looking for a new revision control system and I'm very impressed from monotone so far. I read the documentation and understand how the development process looks like. I've some questions though: After synchronizing how do I see what changes came in? I can do a 'mtn update' but then 'mtn diff'

[Monotone-devel] Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Boris
I'm looking for a new revision control system and I'm very impressed from monotone so far. I read the documentation and understand how the development process looks like. I've some questions though: After synchronizing how do I see what changes came in? I can do a 'mtn update' but then 'mtn

Re: [Monotone-devel] Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Rob Schoening
you can always use mtn log (or viewmtn) to look to see what is in your repository, which is completely independent of your workspace. however determining which revisions will be involved in a workspace update is a little trickier. To my knowledge there is neither a mtn update --dry-run nor a

Re: [Monotone-devel] Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:16:10PM -, Boris wrote: I'm looking for a new revision control system and I'm very impressed from monotone so far. I read the documentation and understand how the development process looks like. I've some questions though: After synchronizing how do I see what

Re: [Monotone-devel] validate checkins

2006-11-29 Thread Brian May
Nathaniel == Nathaniel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nathaniel (a) is really not specific to line-endings; people want Nathaniel to enforce all kinds of style guidelines. (No tabs, Nathaniel no lines longer than 78 characters, quasi-sane Nathaniel indentation, ...) This is a

Re: [Monotone-devel] Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Hugo Cornelis
I did not see such a thing like 'certs' with other version control systems (I could obviously be wrong on this), but, because certs allow for many different types of user defined workflows, it is exactly the reason why I started using monotone. There is a learning curve involved when dealing

[Monotone-devel] Re: Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Boris
Hugo Cornelis wrote: I did not see such a thing like 'certs' with other version control systems (I could obviously be wrong on this), but, because certs allow for many different types of user defined workflows, it is exactly the reason why I started using monotone. There is a learning curve

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Brian May
Boris == Boris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boris Question: There is no way (and I assume no need) to set Boris write-permissions per user? I don't see anything in the Boris documentation that I can use pattern and allow in Boris write-permissions, too? I would assume you would

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [ANNOUNCE] North America Mtn Summit: Feb. 5-11 2007, Mountain View

2006-11-29 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 12:47:00PM +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote: Nathaniel Smith wrote: Okay, time to just go for it. I hereby declare that Mtn Summit 2007, North American edition, will be held February 5-11 in Mountain View. Yay!!! I can finally finalize my travel logistics ;-)

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 10:24, Brian May wrote: Another issue (sorry if this has already been raised) is that currently (correct me if I am wrong) mtn ls unknown will recurse into known and unknown directories to find unknown files. Isn't that what this whole thread is about? Derek

[Monotone-devel] Re: Re: Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Boris
Brian May wrote: Boris == Boris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boris Question: There is no way (and I assume no need) to set Boris write-permissions per user? I don't see anything in the Boris documentation that I can use pattern and allow in Boris write-permissions, too? I would

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 09:43, Nathaniel Smith wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:19:23AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.monotone.devel/7636 and around. He was arguing about confused users and about consistency. Me personally, I

[Monotone-devel] annotate --brief

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Moschny
Hi, here's a the output of 'mtn annotate README': 86c60af1.. by tromey 2003-09-06: If you've downloaded a release, see INSTALL for installation : instructions. If you've checked this out, the generated files are not : included,

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:10:02AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: On Wednesday 29 November 2006 09:43, Nathaniel Smith wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:19:23AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.monotone.devel/7636 and around. He was

Re: [Monotone-devel] annotate --brief

2006-11-29 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:22:19AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: Hi, here's a the output of 'mtn annotate README': 86c60af1.. by tromey 2003-09-06: If you've downloaded a release, see INSTALL for installation : instructions. If you've checked this out,

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 11/29/06, Nathaniel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:10:02AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: I know that this is really different from current behavior, but it seems to be much more natural. And more similar to what other commands do, e.g. svn. This superficial

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: listing unknown directories

2006-11-29 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 07:24:26PM -0800, Zack Weinberg wrote: On 11/29/06, Nathaniel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:10:02AM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: I know that this is really different from current behavior, but it seems to be much more natural. And more

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Re: Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 02:03:44AM -, Boris wrote: And I still wonder how approvals fit into the big picture. What I understand so far is that 'mtn approve' adds a branch=branchname certificate to a revision. But how and where is it used? See the branch section in the UsingCerts page.

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Brian May
Daniel == Daniel Carosone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel Again, it's not about permissions to change things, it's Daniel about whether your trust (ie, how you pay attention to) Daniel what they do. Daniel In this context, this means that everyone accepts changes Daniel in

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Timothy Brownawell
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 17:06 +1100, Brian May wrote: Daniel == Daniel Carosone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel Again, it's not about permissions to change things, it's Daniel about whether your trust (ie, how you pay attention to) Daniel what they do. Daniel In this

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Using monotone in a team

2006-11-29 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:24:27AM -0600, Timothy Brownawell wrote: On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 17:06 +1100, Brian May wrote: What happens if a trusted developer's key becomes compromised (e.g. laptop stolen) or the developer becomes untrustworthy (e.g. fired)? Can you somehow say that old