Re: [Monotone-devel] Confusing text in NEWS

2007-10-15 Thread Ralf S. Engelschall
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007, Zack Weinberg wrote: This paragraph of NEWS, which I believe you wrote, is written very confusingly. I cannot figure out what has been added relative to 0.36. Did MTN_MERGE=diffutils exist in 0.36? Yes, diffutils was already present in 0.36, too. - the

[Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Lapo Luchini
Nope, I'm not talking about small-and-fluffy anime characters (that would be chibi, anyway), but about the de-iure-but-not-de-facto (yet :P) standard to use correct binary prefixes also for byte, thus removing confusion. As it goes 1000 bytes is 1 kilobyte (1 kB) while 1024 bytes should be called

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Patrick Georgi
Lapo Luchini schrieb: would be chibi, anyway), but about the de-iure-but-not-de-facto (yet :P As for yet: IEC 60027-2 (since 1999) Regards, Patrick Georgi ___ Monotone-devel mailing list Monotone-devel@nongnu.org

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Richard Levitte
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:35:23 +0200, Lapo Luchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: lapo As it goes 1000 bytes is 1 kilobyte (1 kB) lapo while 1024 bytes should be called 1 kibibyte (1 KiB). That's what I would call newspeak... Cheers, Richard -- Richard Levitte

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 06:12:17PM +0200, Richard Levitte wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:35:23 +0200, Lapo Luchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: lapo As it goes 1000 bytes is 1 kilobyte (1 kB) lapo while 1024 bytes should be called 1 kibibyte (1 KiB). That's what I

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Lapo Luchini
Patrick Georgi wrote: Lapo Luchini schrieb: would be chibi, anyway), but about the de-iure-but-not-de-facto (yet :P As for yet: IEC 60027-2 (since 1999) That's what I meant to say: standardized de iure since a long time, but used in the wild de facto not yet very much... But

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Richard Levitte
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:00:26 -0700, Nathaniel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: njs On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 06:12:17PM +0200, Richard Levitte wrote: njs In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:35:23 +0200, Lapo Luchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: njs njs

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hi, Nathaniel Smith wrote: (Why are we talking about this on monotone-devel?) I guess because monotone shows a 'k' during netsync, which I'm interpreting as kilobytes. I've no idea whether those are 1000 or 1024 bytes - nor do I really care that much. Other places I've missed? Lapo?

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: njs (Why are we talking about this on monotone-devel?) Beats me, I'm just responding to what is said here. Perhaps because Monotone reports byte counts in k, M and G when the locale is unset or English? I do note that the Italian locale says Ki, Mi

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 10/15/07, Lapo Luchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, I'm not talking about small-and-fluffy anime characters (that would be chibi, anyway), but about the de-iure-but-not-de-facto (yet :P) standard to use correct binary prefixes also for byte, thus removing confusion. As it goes 1000

[Monotone-devel] could we get away with requiring perl during the build, for botan's sake?

2007-10-15 Thread Zack Weinberg
I noticed yesterday while updating AUTHORS that our copy of Botan is way out of date. The newer version has some nice things in it - for example, tuned assembly versions of SHA1 - but the catch is, you configure the library for the target processor etc. with a Perl script. I am not wanting to

Re: [Monotone-devel] could we get away with requiring perl during the build, for botan's sake?

2007-10-15 Thread jack-monotone
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 01:09:46PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: I noticed yesterday while updating AUTHORS that our copy of Botan is way out of date. The newer version has some nice things in it - for example, tuned assembly versions of SHA1 - but the catch is, you configure the library for

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Chad Walstrom
Zack Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm concerned, the standard you're citing only serves to enhance confusion when the rule is perfectly simple and was understood by everyone until the hard drive marketeers put their foot in it. 1024 bytes should be called a kilobyte, and 1000

Re: [Monotone-devel] could we get away with requiring perl during the build, for botan's sake?

2007-10-15 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2007-10-15T13:09:46-0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: I noticed yesterday while updating AUTHORS that our copy of Botan is way out of date. The newer version has some nice things in it - for example, tuned assembly versions of SHA1 - but the catch is, you configure the library for the target

[Monotone-devel] Re: could we get away with requiring perl during the build, for botan's sake?

2007-10-15 Thread Bruce Stephens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I vote[0] for the new Botan, perl dependency and all. What does vote[0] mean? ___ Monotone-devel mailing list Monotone-devel@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/monotone-devel

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Justin Patrin
On 10/15/07, Chad Walstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zack Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm concerned, the standard you're citing only serves to enhance confusion when the rule is perfectly simple and was understood by everyone until the hard drive marketeers put their foot in

Re: [Monotone-devel] kibi!

2007-10-15 Thread Nicolas Ruiz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Justin Patrin wrote: Except that noone knows what a kibibyte is except us few on this thread. I'd never heard of such a thing until now. A standard that isn't used isn't a standard. It is generally understood that kilobyte means 1024 bytes. The