[MORPHMET] replacing df with principal components for MANOVA tests

2016-04-05 Thread Brenna Hays
I have been reading up on MANOVA and come across the common complication requiring a large number of degrees of freedom. After performing Procrustes superimpositions on my landmark configurations, along with my small sample sizes, is not allowing me to perform MANOVA tests. I have read that

RE: [MORPHMET] replacing df with principal components for MANOVA tests

2016-04-05 Thread F. James Rohlf
Note: to give statistically reliable results it needs to do more than just “culls the dimensions of x to match the number of positive non-zero eigenvalues”. You need to have the number of degrees of freedom much larger than the number of dimensions of the space or else you are likely to find

Re: [MORPHMET] replacing df with principal components for MANOVA tests

2016-04-05 Thread Collyer, Michael
Apology for the confusion. I had intended that one could use randomization tests for Procrustes residuals rather than obtaining PC scores, and various functions in R will allow this, even if the number of shape variables exceeds the number of subjects. I just checked, and prcomp will

Re: [MORPHMET] replacing df with principal components for MANOVA tests

2016-04-05 Thread Collyer, Michael
Brenna, The PCA you performed produces a list of objects, one of which is a matrix of PC scores. Change AIS.PC to AISPC$x, and it should work. In this case, $x is the matrix of scores. The help files for the functions you use tell you the objects that are returned. You can also use

[MORPHMET] Understanding the values from Procrustes ANOVA

2016-04-05 Thread Christina Berry
Hey guys, I have performed a Procrustes ANOVA to look at the error values for my landmarks in MorphoJ but I don't really understand the values the results are giving me, the readout it: Procrustes ANOVA: Procrustes ANOVA ... Dataset: Porose errors 2 Classifiers used for the Procrustes ANOVA: