RE: [MORPHMET] PC Ranks in Evolutionary PCA

2015-03-28 Thread F. James Rohlf
Procrustes superimposition only removes isometric size variation. Shape changes that are a function of size (allometry) are not removed so a regression of some sort is needed. F. James Rohlf, Distinguished Professor, Emeritus. Ecology & Evolution Rese

Re: [MORPHMET] PC Ranks in Evolutionary PCA

2015-03-28 Thread Ryan Felice
Hi Alex, I'm assuming that your shape data are landmark configurations that have been subjected to a Procrustes superimposition. is that correct? If so, I dont think the regression you described is really necessary- Procrustes analysis will remove the effects of size, orientation, and position. W

Re: [MORPHMET] PC Ranks in Evolutionary PCA

2015-03-28 Thread pdpolly
Phylogenetic PCA has many unusual properties, and does not remove the effects of phylogeny. Yes, it is the case that the variance of the scores on the first phylogenetic principal component can be higher than the second PC. We recently had a paper in the Hystrix morphometrics volumes about the