[MORPHMET] Re: question Elliptic Fourier Descriptors

2015-10-27 Thread Claudio Vasapollo
Dear Jens,
If I understood well your problem you have an issue with total length of 
individuals you measured. I have not much details from your investigations 
but my question is: did you consider the length before to perfom your 
analysis? I mean, did you correct the head measurments (I suppose they are 
distances) by mean total or mean standard length of whole individuals, 
before perfoming the PCA analysis? This size effect you observed is quite 
suspiciuos for me. If you want to observe differences in the effects of 
different diets, it should be appropriate to eliminate each size dependent 
effects from your data by using for example the Elliott et al., 1985 
formula, quite used in "fisheries" works.
I hope this could help you
Cheers
Claudio


Il giorno lunedì 26 ottobre 2015 14:30:24 UTC+1, Jens De meyer ha scritto:
>
> Dear, 
>
> I have a question about EFDs, and was wondering if you could help me? I 
> have performed a PCA on standardized EFDs (standardized for first harmonic, 
> using SHAPE-software). The EFDs represented head shapes of eels which were 
> given different diets (we compared three different diets). The results of 
> the PCA indicated that PC1 was related to variation in head width, with 
> high PC-scores being related to broader heads and vice versa. Next, we 
> performed a linear regression on these PC-scores and log(length) of the 
> three different diets and observed a size-effect in all three diets. 
> Because of this, I wanted to divide the PC-scores by the total length of 
> the studied eels. Then, we would perform an ANOVA on these length-corrected 
> PC-scores between the different diets, as this would allow us to find out 
> whether the mean head width of a certain diet is significantly broader than 
> another diet. 
> Therefore, my question to you is: Am I acutally allowed to divide these 
> PC-scores by total length? 
> Many thanks in advance! 
> Kind regards, 
> Jens De Meyer

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[MORPHMET] shark and swordfish morphometric differences

2016-09-29 Thread claudio vasapollo
Hi everybody,
I am searching for papers about shark and swordfish (it doesn't matter which 
species) morphometric differentiation between different area of fishing. Of 
course not differences between sharks and swordfishes but between sharks fished 
in different areas (different legnth of fins and so on) and between swordfishes 
cought in different areas.
I searched online but I found very few papers.
Do you have any idea?
Thank you very much
Claudio

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ISMAR-CNR
Largo Fiera della Pesca, 1
Ancona (Italy)
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