RE: [MORPHMET] Statistics software question

[f.james.rohlf]

An improved version of this  type of correction  (the delta-corrected K-S test 
for an intrinsic null hypothesis) is discussed in the text Biometry (Sokal and 
Rohlf, 4th ed. 2012) and a table Y is also provided for this test.  It should 
be more widely known and appreciated.

 



F. James Rohlf, Distinguished Professor, Emeritus. Ecology & Evolution

Research Professor, Anthropology

Stony Brook University

 

From: Novack-Gottshall, Philip M.  
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 7:54 AM
To: Justin Bagley 
Cc: Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. ; 
morphmet@morphometrics.org
Subject: Re: [MORPHMET] Statistics software question

 

Thanks, Justin! I've checked out whichever help docs I can find, but I've 
discovered that sometimes a particular "correct" is not always mentioned, even 
when used in the software.

The reason I'm checking is that I'm a co-author on an R package (LcKS) that 
implements the Lilliefors correction for the one-sample goodness-of-fit 
Kolmogorov-Smirnoff test and we're writing a manuscript to accompany it. 
Apparently the correction is not widely used or known about (outside of the 
statistical community), and it's a major oversight. (For example, ks.test in R 
[very subtly] cautions the user about the violation but does not actually offer 
a fix, and it's not available in base R or 'stats'.) We've discovered many 
published articles that appear to do the test in the incorrect manner. Our 
package and manuscript, we hope, will help improve the situation by calling 
attention to the bias and offering a simple solution.

Best wishes,
Phil

On 1/31/2019 11:46 AM, Justin Bagley wrote:

Dear Phil, 

 

SAS has excellent support and documentation. Just go to their website at 
https://support.sas.com/en/documentation.html, type in a search query for the 
statistical test of interest, and you'll get links to the appropriate section 
of the SAS/STAT 14.3 User's Guide. Detailed information is given on statements 
to call different tests. You should be able to quickly find the information you 
need using this procedure (with a statistics text in hand), and I imagine that 
similar online documentation resources are available for the other major 
programs that you mentioned. 

 

Nevertheless, all in all, I don't recommend that you go with _any_ of the 
software programs in your list for statistical analyses of biological data, 
unless they are the only software programs that implement the test you need. 
Instead, I suggest that you conduct statistical analyses in the R environment 
for statistical computing (https://cran.r-project.org) or write bash or Python 
wrapper scripts around existing programs to conduct your analyses. Is there not 
an R package that will conduct the test you need to do?

 

Since we received this through MORPHMET, perhaps you could state the question 
you have about the "particular statistical test" in question in a way that is 
specific and that relates to morphometrics, and I'm sure that someone would be 
able to help you out in more detail.

 

Good luck.

 

Best,

 

Justin C. Bagley, Ph.D.

Postdoctoral Research Associate

Department of Biology

University of Missouri-St. Louis

One University Boulevard, 223 Research Building

St. Louis, MO 63121-4499

E-mail: bagl...@umsl.edu <mailto:bagl...@umsl.edu> 

Website: https://justinbagley.org

CV: https://justinbagley.org/pages/cv.html

Blog: https://justinbagley.rbind.io

 

Affiliate Researcher

Department of Biology

Virginia Commonwealth University

1000 W Cary St, Rm 126,

Richmond, VA 23284-2012

 

 

 

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:04 AM Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. 
mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu> > wrote:

Hi all,

Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm not sure where this best lands.

I'm trying to find people who have access to (preferably some experience
with) any of the following statistical software programs:
-MiniTab
-SAS
-SPSS
-S-Plus
-STATA
-SYSTAT

If you do, might you contact me off-list mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu> >?
I'm trying to find out how each program handles a particular statistical
test. My question can likely be answered with a quick check of the help
documentation for the software or by running a sample data set I can
provide, if interested.

Thanks,
Phil

~
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  Professorpnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu 
<mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu> 
  Department of Biological Sciences
  Benedictine University
  5700 College Road 
  Lisle, IL 60532

  Office: 332 Birck Hall
  Lab: 316 Birck Hall
  Phone: 630-829-6514
  Fax: 630-829-6547
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 Wed 10 AM - 12:15 PM

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Re: [MORPHMET] Statistics software question

[Novack-Gottshall, Philip M.]

Thanks Justin. As far as I know, lillie.test() only works on the normal 
distribution, which limits its use for other distributions (like exponential, 
gamma, uniform, etc.) If I recall correctly, lillie.test() also uses an 
analytical approximation to calculate p-values, whereas ours uses Monte Carlo 
simulation.

I'm not familiar with gofTest() and look forward to checking it out.

Cheers,
Phil

On 1/31/2019 12:24 PM, Justin Bagley wrote:
Hi Phil,

Congrats on the R package and for helping make others aware of the need for 
said KS correction! Nice work.

I'm sure you're already aware of this, but just in case, and for 
clarification,... Lilliefors' Kolmogorov-Smirnoff test is already implemented 
in the 'lillie.test' function of the nortest R package. This test is also 
already implemented in the R package EnvStats, in its 'gofTest' function (i.e. 
gofTest(y, ..., test='lillie')). Interested parties might like to know, Does 
the development of your package predate these, or does it imply that the test 
is performed incorrectly in these existing packages? Take care.

Best,
Justin

Justin C. Bagley, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Research Associate
Department of Biology
University of Missouri-St. Louis
One University Boulevard, 223 Research Building
St. Louis, MO 63121-4499
E-mail: bagl...@umsl.edu
Website: https://justinbagley.org
CV: https://justinbagley.org/pages/cv.html
Blog: https://justinbagley.rbind.io

Affiliate Researcher
Department of Biology
Virginia Commonwealth University
1000 W Cary St, Rm 126,
Richmond, VA 23284-2012



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:53 AM Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. 
mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu>> wrote:
Thanks, Justin! I've checked out whichever help docs I can find, but I've 
discovered that sometimes a particular "correct" is not always mentioned, even 
when used in the software.

The reason I'm checking is that I'm a co-author on an R package (LcKS) that 
implements the Lilliefors correction for the one-sample goodness-of-fit 
Kolmogorov-Smirnoff test and we're writing a manuscript to accompany it. 
Apparently the correction is not widely used or known about (outside of the 
statistical community), and it's a major oversight. (For example, ks.test in R 
[very subtly] cautions the user about the violation but does not actually offer 
a fix, and it's not available in base R or 'stats'.) We've discovered many 
published articles that appear to do the test in the incorrect manner. Our 
package and manuscript, we hope, will help improve the situation by calling 
attention to the bias and offering a simple solution.

Best wishes,
Phil

On 1/31/2019 11:46 AM, Justin Bagley wrote:
Dear Phil,

SAS has excellent support and documentation. Just go to their website at 
https://support.sas.com/en/documentation.html, type in a search query for the 
statistical test of interest, and you'll get links to the appropriate section 
of the SAS/STAT 14.3 User's Guide. Detailed information is given on statements 
to call different tests. You should be able to quickly find the information you 
need using this procedure (with a statistics text in hand), and I imagine that 
similar online documentation resources are available for the other major 
programs that you mentioned.

Nevertheless, all in all, I don't recommend that you go with _any_ of the 
software programs in your list for statistical analyses of biological data, 
unless they are the only software programs that implement the test you need. 
Instead, I suggest that you conduct statistical analyses in the R environment 
for statistical computing (https://cran.r-project.org) or write bash or Python 
wrapper scripts around existing programs to conduct your analyses. Is there not 
an R package that will conduct the test you need to do?

Since we received this through MORPHMET, perhaps you could state the question 
you have about the "particular statistical test" in question in a way that is 
specific and that relates to morphometrics, and I'm sure that someone would be 
able to help you out in more detail.

Good luck.

Best,

Justin C. Bagley, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Research Associate
Department of Biology
University of Missouri-St. Louis
One University Boulevard, 223 Research Building
St. Louis, MO 63121-4499
E-mail: bagl...@umsl.edu
Website: https://justinbagley.org
CV: https://justinbagley.org/pages/cv.html
Blog: https://justinbagley.rbind.io

Affiliate Researcher
Department of Biology
Virginia Commonwealth University
1000 W Cary St, Rm 126,
Richmond, VA 23284-2012



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:04 AM Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. 
mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm not sure where this best lands.

I'm trying to find people who have access to (preferably some experience
with) any of the following statistical software programs:
-MiniTab
-SAS
-SPSS
-S-Plus
-STATA
-SYSTAT

If you do, might you contact me off-list 
mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu>>?
I'm 

Re: [MORPHMET] Statistics software question

[Justin Bagley]

Hi Phil,

Congrats on the R package and for helping make others aware of the need for
said KS correction! Nice work.

I'm sure you're already aware of this, but just in case, and for
clarification,... Lilliefors' Kolmogorov-Smirnoff test is already
implemented in the 'lillie.test' function of the nortest R package. This
test is also already implemented in the R package EnvStats, in its
'gofTest' function (i.e. gofTest(y, ..., test='lillie')). Interested
parties might like to know, Does the development of your package predate
these, or does it imply that the test is performed incorrectly in these
existing packages? Take care.

Best,
Justin

Justin C. Bagley, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Research Associate
Department of Biology
University of Missouri-St. Louis
One University Boulevard, 223 Research Building
St. Louis, MO 63121-4499
E-mail: bagl...@umsl.edu
Website: https://justinbagley.org
CV: https://justinbagley.org/pages/cv.html
Blog: https://justinbagley.rbind.io

Affiliate Researcher
Department of Biology
Virginia Commonwealth University
1000 W Cary St, Rm 126,
Richmond, VA 23284-2012



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:53 AM Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. <
pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu> wrote:

> Thanks, Justin! I've checked out whichever help docs I can find, but I've
> discovered that sometimes a particular "correct" is not always mentioned,
> even when used in the software.
>
> The reason I'm checking is that I'm a co-author on an R package (LcKS)
> that implements the Lilliefors correction for the one-sample
> goodness-of-fit Kolmogorov-Smirnoff test and we're writing a manuscript to
> accompany it. Apparently the correction is not widely used or known about
> (outside of the statistical community), and it's a major oversight. (For
> example, ks.test in R [very subtly] cautions the user about the violation
> but does not actually offer a fix, and it's not available in base R or
> 'stats'.) We've discovered many published articles that appear to do the
> test in the incorrect manner. Our package and manuscript, we hope, will
> help improve the situation by calling attention to the bias and offering a
> simple solution.
>
> Best wishes,
> Phil
>
> On 1/31/2019 11:46 AM, Justin Bagley wrote:
>
> Dear Phil,
>
> SAS has excellent support and documentation. Just go to their website at
> https://support.sas.com/en/documentation.html, type in a search query for
> the statistical test of interest, and you'll get links to the appropriate
> section of the SAS/STAT 14.3 User's Guide. Detailed information is given on
> statements to call different tests. You should be able to quickly find the
> information you need using this procedure (with a statistics text in hand),
> and I imagine that similar online documentation resources are available for
> the other major programs that you mentioned.
>
> Nevertheless, all in all, I don't recommend that you go with _any_ of the
> software programs in your list for statistical analyses of biological data,
> unless they are the only software programs that implement the test you
> need. Instead, I suggest that you conduct statistical analyses in the R
> environment for statistical computing (https://cran.r-project.org) or
> write bash or Python wrapper scripts around existing programs to conduct
> your analyses. Is there not an R package that will conduct the test you
> need to do?
>
> Since we received this through MORPHMET, perhaps you could state the
> question you have about the "particular statistical test" in question in a
> way that is specific and that relates to morphometrics, and I'm sure that
> someone would be able to help you out in more detail.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Best,
>
> Justin C. Bagley, Ph.D.
> Postdoctoral Research Associate
> Department of Biology
> University of Missouri-St. Louis
> One University Boulevard, 223 Research Building
> St. Louis, MO 63121-4499
> E-mail: bagl...@umsl.edu
> Website: https://justinbagley.org
> CV: https://justinbagley.org/pages/cv.html
> Blog: https://justinbagley.rbind.io
>
> Affiliate Researcher
> Department of Biology
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> 1000 W Cary St, Rm 126,
> Richmond, VA 23284-2012
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:04 AM Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. <
> pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm not sure where this best lands.
>>
>> I'm trying to find people who have access to (preferably some experience
>> with) any of the following statistical software programs:
>> -MiniTab
>> -SAS
>> -SPSS
>> -S-Plus
>> -STATA
>> -SYSTAT
>>
>> If you do, might you contact me off-list ?
>> I'm trying to find out how each program handles a particular statistical
>> test. My question can likely be answered with a quick check of the help
>> documentation for the software or by running a sample data set I can
>> provide, if interested.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Phil
>>
>> ~
>>   Phil Novack-Gottshall, PhD
>>   Professor   

Re: [MORPHMET] Statistics software question

[Novack-Gottshall, Philip M.]

Whoops, I meant the 'KScorrect' package. LcKS() is the primary function in it, 
not the package name.

Phil

On 1/31/2019 11:53 AM, Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. wrote:
Thanks, Justin! I've checked out whichever help docs I can find, but I've 
discovered that sometimes a particular "correct" is not always mentioned, even 
when used in the software.

The reason I'm checking is that I'm a co-author on an R package (LcKS) that 
implements the Lilliefors correction for the one-sample goodness-of-fit 
Kolmogorov-Smirnoff test and we're writing a manuscript to accompany it. 
Apparently the correction is not widely used or known about (outside of the 
statistical community), and it's a major oversight. (For example, ks.test in R 
[very subtly] cautions the user about the violation but does not actually offer 
a fix, and it's not available in base R or 'stats'.) We've discovered many 
published articles that appear to do the test in the incorrect manner. Our 
package and manuscript, we hope, will help improve the situation by calling 
attention to the bias and offering a simple solution.

Best wishes,
Phil

On 1/31/2019 11:46 AM, Justin Bagley wrote:
Dear Phil,

SAS has excellent support and documentation. Just go to their website at 
https://support.sas.com/en/documentation.html, type in a search query for the 
statistical test of interest, and you'll get links to the appropriate section 
of the SAS/STAT 14.3 User's Guide. Detailed information is given on statements 
to call different tests. You should be able to quickly find the information you 
need using this procedure (with a statistics text in hand), and I imagine that 
similar online documentation resources are available for the other major 
programs that you mentioned.

Nevertheless, all in all, I don't recommend that you go with _any_ of the 
software programs in your list for statistical analyses of biological data, 
unless they are the only software programs that implement the test you need. 
Instead, I suggest that you conduct statistical analyses in the R environment 
for statistical computing (https://cran.r-project.org) or write bash or Python 
wrapper scripts around existing programs to conduct your analyses. Is there not 
an R package that will conduct the test you need to do?

Since we received this through MORPHMET, perhaps you could state the question 
you have about the "particular statistical test" in question in a way that is 
specific and that relates to morphometrics, and I'm sure that someone would be 
able to help you out in more detail.

Good luck.

Best,

Justin C. Bagley, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Research Associate
Department of Biology
University of Missouri-St. Louis
One University Boulevard, 223 Research Building
St. Louis, MO 63121-4499
E-mail: bagl...@umsl.edu
Website: https://justinbagley.org
CV: https://justinbagley.org/pages/cv.html
Blog: https://justinbagley.rbind.io

Affiliate Researcher
Department of Biology
Virginia Commonwealth University
1000 W Cary St, Rm 126,
Richmond, VA 23284-2012



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:04 AM Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. 
mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm not sure where this best lands.

I'm trying to find people who have access to (preferably some experience
with) any of the following statistical software programs:
-MiniTab
-SAS
-SPSS
-S-Plus
-STATA
-SYSTAT

If you do, might you contact me off-list 
mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu>>?
I'm trying to find out how each program handles a particular statistical
test. My question can likely be answered with a quick check of the help
documentation for the software or by running a sample data set I can
provide, if interested.

Thanks,
Phil

~
  Phil Novack-Gottshall, PhD
  Professor
pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu
  Department of Biological Sciences
  Benedictine University
  5700 College Road
  Lisle, IL 60532

  Office: 332 Birck Hall
  Lab: 316 Birck Hall
  Phone: 630-829-6514
  Fax: 630-829-6547
  https://pnovack-gottshall.wixsite.com/home

  Spring 2019 office hours:  Tues/Thurs 9:30-11:00 AM
 Wed 10 AM - 12:15 PM

  If you have urgent academic advising questions, please contact
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Re: [MORPHMET] Statistics software question

[Novack-Gottshall, Philip M.]

Thanks, Justin! I've checked out whichever help docs I can find, but I've 
discovered that sometimes a particular "correct" is not always mentioned, even 
when used in the software.

The reason I'm checking is that I'm a co-author on an R package (LcKS) that 
implements the Lilliefors correction for the one-sample goodness-of-fit 
Kolmogorov-Smirnoff test and we're writing a manuscript to accompany it. 
Apparently the correction is not widely used or known about (outside of the 
statistical community), and it's a major oversight. (For example, ks.test in R 
[very subtly] cautions the user about the violation but does not actually offer 
a fix, and it's not available in base R or 'stats'.) We've discovered many 
published articles that appear to do the test in the incorrect manner. Our 
package and manuscript, we hope, will help improve the situation by calling 
attention to the bias and offering a simple solution.

Best wishes,
Phil

On 1/31/2019 11:46 AM, Justin Bagley wrote:
Dear Phil,

SAS has excellent support and documentation. Just go to their website at 
https://support.sas.com/en/documentation.html, type in a search query for the 
statistical test of interest, and you'll get links to the appropriate section 
of the SAS/STAT 14.3 User's Guide. Detailed information is given on statements 
to call different tests. You should be able to quickly find the information you 
need using this procedure (with a statistics text in hand), and I imagine that 
similar online documentation resources are available for the other major 
programs that you mentioned.

Nevertheless, all in all, I don't recommend that you go with _any_ of the 
software programs in your list for statistical analyses of biological data, 
unless they are the only software programs that implement the test you need. 
Instead, I suggest that you conduct statistical analyses in the R environment 
for statistical computing (https://cran.r-project.org) or write bash or Python 
wrapper scripts around existing programs to conduct your analyses. Is there not 
an R package that will conduct the test you need to do?

Since we received this through MORPHMET, perhaps you could state the question 
you have about the "particular statistical test" in question in a way that is 
specific and that relates to morphometrics, and I'm sure that someone would be 
able to help you out in more detail.

Good luck.

Best,

Justin C. Bagley, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Research Associate
Department of Biology
University of Missouri-St. Louis
One University Boulevard, 223 Research Building
St. Louis, MO 63121-4499
E-mail: bagl...@umsl.edu
Website: https://justinbagley.org
CV: https://justinbagley.org/pages/cv.html
Blog: https://justinbagley.rbind.io

Affiliate Researcher
Department of Biology
Virginia Commonwealth University
1000 W Cary St, Rm 126,
Richmond, VA 23284-2012



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:04 AM Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. 
mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm not sure where this best lands.

I'm trying to find people who have access to (preferably some experience
with) any of the following statistical software programs:
-MiniTab
-SAS
-SPSS
-S-Plus
-STATA
-SYSTAT

If you do, might you contact me off-list 
mailto:pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu>>?
I'm trying to find out how each program handles a particular statistical
test. My question can likely be answered with a quick check of the help
documentation for the software or by running a sample data set I can
provide, if interested.

Thanks,
Phil

~
  Phil Novack-Gottshall, PhD
  Professor
pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu
  Department of Biological Sciences
  Benedictine University
  5700 College Road
  Lisle, IL 60532

  Office: 332 Birck Hall
  Lab: 316 Birck Hall
  Phone: 630-829-6514
  Fax: 630-829-6547
  https://pnovack-gottshall.wixsite.com/home

  Spring 2019 office hours:  Tues/Thurs 9:30-11:00 AM
 Wed 10 AM - 12:15 PM

  If you have urgent academic advising questions, please contact
  Anne Baysinger (Birck 130)
 ~


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  Lab: 316 Birck Hall
  Phone: 630-829-6514
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Re: [MORPHMET] Statistics software question

[Justin Bagley]

Dear Phil,

SAS has excellent support and documentation. Just go to their website at
https://support.sas.com/en/documentation.html, type in a search query for
the statistical test of interest, and you'll get links to the appropriate
section of the SAS/STAT 14.3 User's Guide. Detailed information is given on
statements to call different tests. You should be able to quickly find the
information you need using this procedure (with a statistics text in hand),
and I imagine that similar online documentation resources are available for
the other major programs that you mentioned.

Nevertheless, all in all, I don't recommend that you go with _any_ of the
software programs in your list for statistical analyses of biological data,
unless they are the only software programs that implement the test you
need. Instead, I suggest that you conduct statistical analyses in the R
environment for statistical computing (https://cran.r-project.org) or write
bash or Python wrapper scripts around existing programs to conduct your
analyses. Is there not an R package that will conduct the test you need to
do?

Since we received this through MORPHMET, perhaps you could state the
question you have about the "particular statistical test" in question in a
way that is specific and that relates to morphometrics, and I'm sure that
someone would be able to help you out in more detail.

Good luck.

Best,

Justin C. Bagley, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Research Associate
Department of Biology
University of Missouri-St. Louis
One University Boulevard, 223 Research Building
St. Louis, MO 63121-4499
E-mail: bagl...@umsl.edu
Website: https://justinbagley.org
CV: https://justinbagley.org/pages/cv.html
Blog: https://justinbagley.rbind.io

Affiliate Researcher
Department of Biology
Virginia Commonwealth University
1000 W Cary St, Rm 126,
Richmond, VA 23284-2012



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:04 AM Novack-Gottshall, Philip M. <
pnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm not sure where this best lands.
>
> I'm trying to find people who have access to (preferably some experience
> with) any of the following statistical software programs:
> -MiniTab
> -SAS
> -SPSS
> -S-Plus
> -STATA
> -SYSTAT
>
> If you do, might you contact me off-list ?
> I'm trying to find out how each program handles a particular statistical
> test. My question can likely be answered with a quick check of the help
> documentation for the software or by running a sample data set I can
> provide, if interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
> ~
>   Phil Novack-Gottshall, PhD
>   Professorpnovack-gottsh...@ben.edu
>   Department of Biological Sciences
>   Benedictine University
>   5700 College Road
>   Lisle, IL 60532
>
>   Office: 332 Birck Hall
>   Lab: 316 Birck Hall
>   Phone: 630-829-6514
>   Fax: 630-829-6547
>   https://pnovack-gottshall.wixsite.com/home
>
>   Spring 2019 office hours:  Tues/Thurs 9:30-11:00 AM
>  Wed 10 AM - 12:15 PM
>
>   If you have urgent academic advising questions, please contact
>   Anne Baysinger (Birck 130)
>  ~
>
>
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[MORPHMET] Statistics software question

[Novack-Gottshall, Philip M.]

Hi all,

Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm not sure where this best lands.

I'm trying to find people who have access to (preferably some experience
with) any of the following statistical software programs:
-MiniTab
-SAS
-SPSS
-S-Plus
-STATA
-SYSTAT

If you do, might you contact me off-list ?
I'm trying to find out how each program handles a particular statistical
test. My question can likely be answered with a quick check of the help
documentation for the software or by running a sample data set I can
provide, if interested.

Thanks,
Phil

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