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Subject: RE: multi-class ANOVA analogue for geometric morphometrics
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:59:23 -0400
From: F. James Rohlf <ro...@life.bio.sunysb.edu>
Reply-To: ro...@life.bio.sunysb.edu
Organization: Stony Brook University
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org

Once you have projected your shapes into the tangent space (e.g., partial warp scores) then you have what can be treated as ordinary multivariate data. You can use any multivariate method that is appropriate for the questions you wish to ask.

Note that you should not normally use Goodall's test as it makes many unrealistic assumptions and thus in practice has much higher Type I error rates than you would expect.

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     Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:42:44 -0400
      From: Robert Richardson
      Reply-To: Robert Richardson
      Subject: multi-class ANOVA analogue for geometric morphometrics
      To: morphmet-requ...@morphometrics.org

Fellow morphers,

I'm familiar with the need to account for the lower degrees of freedom, when
testing for differences between groups, hence the use of Goodall's-F test.
However, as with basic (M)ANOVA, that just tells you if there's at least one
group that's statistically different but doesn't identify which one(s) when you
have more than two categories.
Are there multi-class (M)ANOVAs (e.g. Ryan-Einot-Gabrial-Welsch Q-test or
Tukey's test) that are out there that will directly identify which categories 
are
different when dealing with many categories (e.g.
samples from seven geographical locations)?  Maybe there's a way to load the
data into an R-script and manually adjust the degrees of freedom for a regular
multi-category (M)ANOVA?

Thanks for the input!

Robert-

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