Re: [MORPHMET] Re: number of landmarks and sample size

2017-06-02 Thread William Gelnaw
I'm currently working on a paper that deals with the problem of over-parameterizing PCA in morphometrics. The recommendations that I'm making in the paper are that you should try to have at least 3 times as many samples as variables. That means that if you have 10 2D landmarks, you should have

Re: [MORPHMET] EDMA analyses

2017-06-02 Thread xiaofeixian
I found your message in EDMA analyses post. I am having recently done the problem of craniofacial differences. Could you share an edmaware for me? Looking forward to your reply. 在 2014年11月19日星期三 UTC+8上午12:53:52,Cole, Theodore M.写道: > There's a far more up-to-date edma program called edmaware that

Re: [MORPHMET] EDMA analyses

2017-06-02 Thread xiaofeixian
在 2014年11月19日星期三 UTC+8上午12:53:52,Cole, Theodore M.写道: > There's a far more up-to-date edma program called edmaware that I can send > you. If that doesn't fix your problem, you could send me a couple of your > files and I could try them here.  I'll send a download link later today. > > Tim Cole

RE: [MORPHMET] Re: number of landmarks and sample size

2017-06-02 Thread Adams, Dean [EEOBS]
Will, I’m not quite sure what over-parameterizing means in the case of PCA, as it is simply a rigid-rotation of the dataspace and does not provide parameters for statistical inference. As for the distribution of eigenvalues, this of course is based on the underlying covariance matrix for the

RE: [MORPHMET] Re: number of landmarks and sample size

2017-06-02 Thread Murat Maga
Just to comment. While it is worthwhile to investigate these issues, in my experience same sizes are limited not because investigators are NOT willing to measure more specimens, but there are no additional specimens to include in the analysis, especially for studies based on natural

Re: [MORPHMET] Re: number of landmarks and sample size

2017-06-02 Thread mitte...@univie.ac.at
I think a few topics get mixed up here. Of course, a sample can be too small to be representative (as in Andrea's example), and one should think carefully about the measures to take. It is also clear that an increase in sample size reduces standard errors of statistical estimates, including

Re: [MORPHMET] Re: number of landmarks and sample size

2017-06-02 Thread David Thulman
Hello, I'm an archaeologist who works on artifacts in North America. There are not many of us that use LGM, but even we can't seem to agree on how many LMs are appropriate. Because I use discriminant function analysis as the workhorse for discriminating groups of artifacts, I worry about the