Re: [MORPHMET] help us in multifactor Manova

2018-05-18 Thread mahendiran mylswamy
My sample size is 147 not either 9 or 7 in any case. I agree that the computer displays these numbers! don't know why? Nevertheless, in this analysis the number of specimens (dependent shape variable) is 147, obviously, with the equal number of observations for each independent variables (here,

Re: [MORPHMET] help us in multifactor Manova

2018-05-18 Thread mahendiran mylswamy
Mike, That's amazing, you nailed it, finally. Great! Yes, I didn’t have all levels of stages that match all levels of Locations, and because of this, I am getting such error messages. Thanks a lot indeed, for educating and enlightening me, on these aspects. I do have some other factors with

[MORPHMET] How to project shape difference onto different PC

2018-05-18 Thread Yinan Hu
Dear colleagues, I'm trying to figure out how to break down shape differences onto individual PC axes. I have a morphospace where PC1 explains 60% of shape variation and PC2 explains 20% of variation. Two subsets of samples of particular interest do not differ much along PC1, but differs

[MORPHMET] vector projection in morphospace

2018-05-18 Thread Yinan Hu
Dear colleagues, I'm trying to figure out how to break down shape differences onto individual PC axes. I have a morphospace where PC1 explains 60% of shape variation and PC2 explains 20% of variation. Two subsets of samples of particular interest do not differ much along PC1, but differs

[MORPHMET] GMM and face research

2018-05-18 Thread Katrin Schaefer
Dear all, Please see some of our recent papers, in case you share an interest in how GMM can benefit face research :) Windhager, Bookstein, Mueller, Zunder, Kirchengast, Schaefer 2018 Calibrating facial morphs for use as stimuli in biological studies of social perception. Sci Rep Full text at

Re: [MORPHMET] help us in multifactor Manova

2018-05-18 Thread Mike Collyer
Mahen, I think the issue is because you might not have all levels of Location matched with all Levels of Stages. It appears you have 5 stages and 2 locations. For the model that worked, you will notice 5 rows in your ANOVA table. In the one that didn’t, it was attempting to create a table

Re: [MORPHMET] How to project shape difference onto different PC

2018-05-18 Thread K. James Soda
Dear Dr. Hu, Let me begin by restating how I understand the question: You have completed a PCA on a morphological data set in which there are two subsets of interest. Now you would like to decompose the difference between the two subsets into differences along individual PCs. Here is my two cents

RE: [MORPHMET] How to project shape difference onto different PC

2018-05-18 Thread F. James Rohlf
Yes, the PC axes are “comparable”. I think the best way to think about what a PCA does is to interpret it as a projection of a multidimensional space down to a low dimensional space that captures as much of the overall variation as possible. The first axis is somewhat special because it

Re: [MORPHMET] How to project shape difference onto different PC

2018-05-18 Thread Yinan Hu
Dear James, Thanks for the reply. Yes I have completed a PCA on a GM dataset with 11 landmarks, and you got it exactly right that I'm trying to decompose shape differences onto individual PCs. The reason I was hesitating to do the vector projection is that I'm not sure if PC scores on