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Couple things. If your landmarks are on structures that doesn't change in s=
ize much during ontogeny, regardless of what happens in the rest of the sku=
ll, the centroid size cannot change either.
But more likely, you have a technical problem with for scaling.
I would suggest taking a simple length (eg., Skull length) in all your samp=
les and then see if those measurements makes make sense and show the variab=
ility that you expected to see in the size.
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Subject: [MORPHMET] Centroid size correlation with size
Hi all,
I am encountering a strange pattern in my data and I'm not sure if it is a =
problem with how i am collecting the landmarks or it's actually just a stra=
nge but correct pattern.
I work with an ontogenetic series of baleen whale skulls. The skulls of the=
fetal specimens are very small (10-30 cm in length) compared to newborns o=
r adults (80-120 cm length). I would expect from my understanding of centro=
id size to increase progressively going from the early fetuses to the adult=
s, but this is not the case. The fetal stages seems to overall follow the p=
attern from small to big, but newborns and adults have more variable centro=
id sizes that overlap with the range of the fetuses.
I collect my landmarks in Avizo, and I changed the scale of the 3D models I=
imported from other software to scale the skulls to their real size.
Do you think there is a problem with the landmark collection or it could be=
possible that centroid size does not approximate actual skull size in this=
case?
Thanks a lot!
Agnese
agnese.lanze...@hotmail.it
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Couple things. If your landmarks are on structures that doesn't change in s=
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<div>I am encountering a strange pattern in my data and I'm not sure if it =
is a problem with how i am collecting the landmarks or it's actually just a=
strange but correct pattern.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I work with an ontogenetic series of baleen whale skulls. The skulls o=
f the fetal specimens are very small (10-30 cm in length) compared to newbo=
rns or adults (80-120 cm length). I would expect from my understanding of c=
entroid size to increase progressively
going from the early fetuses to the adults, but this is not the case. The =
fetal stages seems to overall follow the pattern from small to big, but new=
borns and adults have more variable centroid sizes that overlap with the ra=
nge of the fetuses.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I collect my landmarks in Avizo, and I changed the scale of the 3D mod=
els I imported from other software to scale the skulls to their real size.&=
nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do you think there is a problem with the landmark collection or it cou=
ld be possible that centroid size does not approximate actual skull size in=
this case?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks a lot!</div>
<div>Agnese</div>
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