Re: [mosh-devel] mosh without ssh?

2013-12-06 Thread Daniel
You could also do something like using a key pair, with the public key on the server, use this to encrypt the random mosh-server key and then publish it in a DNS TXT record, then change it every days or script it so when you start a new mosh-server instance, it generates another mosh key and then

Re: [mosh-devel] mosh without ssh?

2013-12-06 Thread Weiwu Zhang
Thanks all of you for answering my posts, and especially Keith who listed almost all possible methods. I don't usually reply email in half a year, except when caught in busines for too long, like now. 2013/7/2 Keith Winstein : > Pretty much _any_ means of getting the server to start a mosh-server

Re: [mosh-devel] mosh without ssh?

2013-07-01 Thread Keith Winstein
Hello Weiwu, The "mosh" wrapper script does use ssh, but only to remotely execute a "mosh-server" on the server (running as the user) and collect the session key it prints out. Others have replaced SSH with HTTPS (the user authenticates with a password or X.509 certificates and then gets the secr

Re: [mosh-devel] mosh without ssh?

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/01/2013 05:46 PM, Weiwu Zhang wrote: > Hello. I believe many are attracted to mosh like me because they > cannot run ssh, and sad to realize, although advertised as a > replacement of ssh, mosh depends on ssh. For starters, man mosh-server and

Re: [mosh-devel] mosh without ssh?

2013-07-01 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, I don't expect that mosh will grow an authentication layer besides SSH so quickly (and many are happy that mosh uses a well-known, well-understood and proven system for authentication), but I know something which may help for this: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +0800, Weiwu Zhang wrote:

[mosh-devel] mosh without ssh?

2013-07-01 Thread Weiwu Zhang
Hello. I believe many are attracted to mosh like me because they cannot run ssh, and sad to realize, although advertised as a replacement of ssh, mosh depends on ssh. The reasons users prefer not to use ssh could be because it is plain out blocked. Like in Iran, or stemed, like in China†. Nobody