Hello Roman,

As we requested earlier (below in this thread), could you please refer to
your software as "mosh-compatible" instead of calling it a mosh client (or
"Mosh in your pocket" as is on your website now)?

Thank you,
Keith

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Roman Kudiyarov <ro...@termius.com> wrote:

> Hi there!
>
> I’m glad to announce that Termius is a free mosh client for iOS and
> Android. At the moment we are working on a version for Mac, Windows and
> Linux.
>
> I wonder if it is possible to put a link to termius website from mosh.org so
> end users have more options to pick up from.
>
> On 4 May 2017 at 4:46:24 PM, Keith Winstein (kei...@cs.stanford.edu)
> wrote:
>
> Hello Roman,
>
> Okay, but if we can't see your code, we don't have a good way to start to
> know if your implementation is "fully compatible" with Mosh (it's not like
> we have a compatibility test suite for new binary implementations). If you
> didn't implement it with clean-room approach and were referencing the Mosh
> code as you wrote your own implementation, we can't tell you if your
> program is a derivative of Mosh or not. I do appreciate your kind words
> about Mosh.
>
> Sincerely,
> Keith
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Roman Kudiyarov <ro...@termius.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Keith!
>>
>> On 2 May 2017 at 6:40:20 AM, Keith Winstein (kei...@cs.stanford.edu)
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for letting us know!
>>
>> (1) Could you please describe the process you used to develop a
>> clean-room implementation of the Mosh protocol? Did you write up a protocol
>> specification based on the Mosh source code, and then have somebody else
>> implement the spec? If so, would you be willing to share the protocol spec?
>>
>> Writing the spec would be ideal scenario but we just used the original
>> source code to learn the protocol and developed our own implementation from
>> scratch using different set of libraries and frameworks.
>>
>>
>>
>> (2) Is the source code of your implementation available?
>>
>> We are not sure about making it open-source as we are going to use as our
>> competitive advantage and we’ve invested quite a lot of time to get to this
>> point.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (3) We've had bad experiences in the past with people (especially iSSH on
>> iOS) attempting to implement the Mosh protocol, but with imperfect results,
>> and users blaming Mosh for the problems. As with these past cases, please
>> don't refer to your implementation as "Mosh." Please refer to it as
>> "Termius mosh-compatible mode," with your own name first and
>> "mosh-compatible" instead of "Mosh".
>>
>> Sure, no problem. We will make sure that it’s mentioned as
>> "mosh-compatible”.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Keith
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Roman Kudiyarov <ro...@termius.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m a co-founder of Crystalnix. We work on Termius, cross-platform SSH
>>> client (iOS, Android, Mac, Windows, Linux and Chrome). Now we have around
>>> 200K of monthly users! Our team aims to redesign command line UX from
>>> scratch. Your team has done an amazing job with the mosh protocol which was
>>> one of the most desired features that our users have been asking for.
>>>
>>> We had to develop our own mosh client(completely different code-base)
>>> due to the license restrictions. Anyway our code is fully compatible with
>>> the current version of the mosh server. Very shortly we are launching beta
>>> for Android and then will roll out to other platforms as well.
>>>
>>> That means that this amazing technology(mosh) will be available for huge
>>> user base for free!
>>>
>>> I just wanted to share those news and say thank you for the job you’ve
>>> done!
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions!
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Roman Kudiyarov
>>> Termius Team
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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