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1. Re: ebay cameras (Harlan Daneker)
2. Re: ebay cameras (Justin Alcorn)
3. Re: ebay cameras (chuck elliot)
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 13:11:45 -0500
From: Harlan Daneker <hdane...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] ebay cameras
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Unless you know something I am unaware of, port forwarding must be set up
with iptables so by default it would not forward anything.
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 12:26?PM Justin Alcorn <jus...@jalcorn.net> wrote:
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> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 9:28?PM Harlan Daneker <hdane...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> They are on a separate network card on the computer with its own static
>> ip address and there isn't any gateway. So if there is a way to connect to
>> the internet you will have to tell me how it could happen.
>>
>
> This is the way.
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> (As long as forwarding is disabled on the computer)
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 20:47:16 -0500
From: Justin Alcorn <jus...@jalcorn.net>
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] ebay cameras
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IoT devices don't need port forwarding.
They open up a connection to their command and control server, and leave it
open, allowing the C&C server to send commands. That's how all your smart
lights work - your smartphone app tells the server to turn off the light,
and the light reaches out and says 'do you have a command for me' every
second or two, and then turns off.
The problem is when the C&C server gets compromised and bad guys start
sending different commands.
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Justin B. Alcorn
The views expressed are not necessarily my own, much less anyone else's
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On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 1:11?PM Harlan Daneker <hdane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unless you know something I am unaware of, port forwarding must be set up
> with iptables so by default it would not forward anything.
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 12:26?PM Justin Alcorn <jus...@jalcorn.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 9:28?PM Harlan Daneker <hdane...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They are on a separate network card on the computer with its own static
>>> ip address and there isn't any gateway. So if there is a way to connect to
>>> the internet you will have to tell me how it could happen.
>>>
>>
>> This is the way.
>>
>> (As long as forwarding is disabled on the computer)
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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 09:32:57 +0000
From: chuck elliot <c.ell...@pobox.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] ebay cameras
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'true but your light still needs a route to the Internet.
This guy's camera is effectively on an isolated LAN. Unless his computer
is configured
to forward packets between its interfaces , packets from the camera will
not reach the Internet
and packets from the Internet will not reach his camera.
On 15/01/2024 1:47 am, Justin Alcorn wrote:
> IoT devices don't need port forwarding. They open up a connection to
> their command and control server, and leave it open, allowing the C&C
> server to send commands. That's how all your smart lights wor
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> IoT devices don't need port forwarding.
>
> They open up a connection to their command and control server, and
> leave it open, allowing the C&C server to send commands.? That's how
> all your smart lights work - your smartphone app tells the server to
> turn off the light, and the light reaches out and says 'do you have a
> command for me' every second or two, and then turns off.
>
> The problem is when the C&C server gets compromised and bad guys start
> sending different commands.
>
> --
> Justin B. Alcorn
> The views expressed are not necessarily my own, much less anyone else's
> PGP Fingerprint?CCEB F776 C3FD 1050 C8DB? 532E B8B9 BED7 7764 406C
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>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 1:11?PM Harlan Daneker <hdane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Unless you know something I am unaware of, port forwarding must be
> set up with iptables so by default it would not forward anything.
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 12:26?PM Justin Alcorn
> <jus...@jalcorn.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 9:28?PM Harlan Daneker
> <hdane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> They are on a separate network card on the computer with
> its own static ip address and there isn't any gateway. So
> if there is a way to connect to the internet you will have
> to tell me how it could happen.
>
>
> This is the way.
> (As long as forwarding is disabled on the computer)
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