Re: [Mpi-forum] Webex for Tools WG

2019-05-28 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
Track 2 is tools. > On May 28, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Jithin Jose via mpi-forum > wrote: > > Hi Marc Andre, > > We are just setting it up, please wait for a few more minutes. > > Thanks. > Jithin > > -Original Message- > From: mpi-forum On Behalf Of > Marc-Andre Hermanns via mpi-forum

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-07-31 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
On Jul 31, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Jeff Hammond wrote: > > It’s a long email to read on my phone while on vacation. Then stop reading on your phone while on vacation and defer this until next week! ;-) > If you don’t say C++, there’s no reason OMPI and MPICH can’t do the obvious, > trivial and

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-07-31 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
On Jul 31, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Jeff Hammond wrote: > > You’re going to have to mention C++. You can’t just pretend that C++ supports > C11 generic, because it explicitly doesn’t. We are mentioning C++. Please re-read my prior email. > And you really should do this because it’s ridiculous

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-07-31 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
On Jul 31, 2019, at 4:31 AM, Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum wrote: > Should we mark in the interface the fact that the MPI_Count overloads are > only available in C11? I'm thinking about something similar to cppreference's > distinction between C/C++ standard versions, e.g., > > > ``` > int

[Mpi-forum] Errata: fix obvious parameter name error

2019-08-27 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
This was discovered after the 2-week window for the Zurich meeting. If this can't make it into the Zurich meeting agenda, please put it on the meeting agenda for December. It's a trivial one-word fix in the language-neutral binding for MPI_UNPACK_EXTERNAL -- needs to be applied to both the

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-07-30 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
the chapter? > > Get Outlook for Android > > From: mpi-forum on behalf of Jeff > Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:13:09 AM > To: MPI Forum list > Cc: Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) > Subject: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

[Mpi-forum] Giving up on C11 _Generic

2019-08-07 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
SHORT VERSION = Due to the possibility of silently introducing errors into user applications, the BigCount WG no longer thinks that C11 _Generic is a good idea. We are therefore dropping that from our proposal. The new proposal will therefore essentially just be the addition of a

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-07-31 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
On Jul 31, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Jeff Hammond wrote: > >> You're ignoring the long tail of consequences here -- what about PMPI/tools? >> What about other C++ features that we should be using, too? ...? > > No scope creep. No slippery slope. Do the one thing we need to go and stop. > Leave the

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-07-31 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
On Jul 31, 2019, at 12:59 PM, Jeff Hammond wrote: > > “C++ compilers shall produce the same result as C11 generic.” Why does this > need to say anything different for profiling and tools? Is this impossible? Is there a way to have C++ overloading call the same symbols that we'll dispatch to

Re: [Mpi-forum] Giving up on C11 _Generic

2019-08-08 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
Some points: 1. C11 _Generic support in an MPI implementation has to be optional, at least for now, because not all compilers support C11 _Generic (just like the F08 bindings are still optional, and just like aspects of the C++ bindings were optional back in the '90s when C++ compilers still

[Mpi-forum] Slides (and PDFs) for today's "Big Count" Forum Virtual Meeting

2019-07-24 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
Forum members: Slides 12 and 15 from the "Big Count" presentation today have links to sample PDFs showing the different options for rendering the MPI function bindings both throughout the text and in Annex A. We're sending you these links so that you can view these PDFs on your own screens

[Mpi-forum] Slides from today's Embiggenment Forum Virtual Meeting

2019-11-13 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpi-forum
Pythonization (THIS WILL AFFECT ANYONE WHO WORKS IN THE LATEX!): https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dcyTuX4My-M9lwL9g2zEqAKuFQuL3dulCfN44YngLgM/edit Embiggenment: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13X_4moTKxIHB0YJI-bBlJ5V3bF2WywB1DfOOvSzH8Cc/edit -- Jeff Squyres jsquy...@cisco.com