RE: [Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes........

2003-10-03 Thread Peter Jessen
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes Vicky Heller writes Our Listmanager posted a link about union contract negotiations at Border's which reminded me of an important issue that I have previously written about: The ticking time bomb of pension shortfalls

[Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes........

2003-10-02 Thread Victoria Heller
Jim Bernstein states: Pensions are earned. They are not welfare. Vicky replies: We need some arithmetic here. If you contribute $50,000 to your retirement plan, and draw $500,000 of benefits after you retire, who pays the difference? In the case of public pensions (including social security),

Re: [Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes........

2003-10-02 Thread David Shove
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Victoria Heller wrote: Jim Bernstein states: Pensions are earned. They are not welfare. Vicky replies: We need some arithmetic here. If you contribute $50,000 to your retirement plan, and draw $500,000 of benefits after you retire, who pays the difference? And what

Re: [Mpls] Pensions and other Ponzi schemes........

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Johnson
Victoria Heller wrote: We need some arithmetic here. If you contribute $50,000 to your retirement plan, and draw $500,000 of benefits after you retire, who pays the difference? Nobody pays in $50,000 to social security and draws out $500,000 unless it's through disability or retiring early and