Re: glbtiq issues Was Re: [Mpls] Natalie Johnson Lee

2005-09-16 Thread Eva Young
At 12:10 AM 9/15/2005, David Strand wrote: Mark, would you provide support or evidence of her making such comments? She voted in favor of the city lobbying the state for equal marriage rights, in favor of repealing the restroom ordinance which was leading to harrassment of transgender people

RE: [Mpls] Natalie Johnson Lee and the Crackpot Fundie

2005-09-16 Thread Eva Young
At 09:32 AM 9/15/2005, Brandon Lacy wrote: Natalie has been a strong ally to the LGBT community since taking office. The one vote in City Hall that she took that did not serve the LGBT community (her vote against requiring corporations with city contracts to provide domestic partner benefits

RE: [Mpls] Natalie Johnson Lee and the Crackpot Fundie

2005-09-16 Thread Brandon Lacy
Neither did she confirm it nor has she acted in any manner that would suggest that she doesn't support full marriage rights for LGBT individuals. Sometimes the best way to let an issue die is to give it no credence whatsoever. -Brandon Lacy Campos -Loring Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please

[Mpls] campaign donations

2005-09-16 Thread Linda Higgins
In the three OFF years, no one can donate more than $100 to any candidate. In CAMPAIGN years, the limit is $300 per person. If I remember correctly, it is $500 for the mayor. I might be wrong on this, but I think there was an accommodation made because of running city wide. Corporate donations

[Mpls] Soccer Start Minnesota Making Soccer Available to Every Child in Every Community

2005-09-16 Thread Todd Heintz
Soccer Start Minnesota Making Soccer Available to Every Child in Every Community It is the desire of Minnesota Youth Soccer Association to make soccer available to every child in the state. In order to work towards this goal, MYSA has adopted the Soccer Start program as developed by US

Re: [Mpls] campaign donations

2005-09-16 Thread David Strand
Having worked on city wide campaigns,it is correct that the mayor, library board, city wide park board seats, school board and board of estimate and taxation candidates all have a top contribution limit of $500 in election years. City council and district park board candidates are both held to a

Re: [Mpls] campaign donations

2005-09-16 Thread Carol Becker
Linda Higgins wrote: In the three OFF years, no one can donate more than $100 to any candidate. In CAMPAIGN years, the limit is $300 per person. If I remember correctly, it is $500 for the mayor. I might be wrong on this, but I think there was an accommodation made because of running city

[Mpls] When to not give credence.....

2005-09-16 Thread Mark Hanson
Re: the fight I resurrected re: Natalie Johnson Lee and her failure to publicly refute Reverend Bob Battle's use of her name in a major newspaper... 1. More people read the Pioneer Press than attend Green Party meetings. 2. More people read the Pioneer Press than read this issues list. 3.

[Mpls] Nothing Private about City Council Votes was nlj and glbtiq

2005-09-16 Thread David Strand
Mark Hanson alleges that all he has are private assurances in regards to Natalie's support for glbtiq people. Mark, I must disagree. There is nothing private about Natalie's record on the city council. She has voted to support the lobbying efforts of the city in favor of same sex marriage,

Re: [Mpls] Primary Turnout

2005-09-16 Thread Laura and lloyd
On Thursday, September 15, 2005, at 07:21 PM, Erik Riese wrote: Perhaps we should institute an election quorum. Say 60% in a primary and 85% in a general. Unless we get that level of participation the election is void and we have to have a do over. At some point we could force a rotation

Re: [Mpls] Mayoral strategy - Question

2005-09-16 Thread Loki Anderson
Commissioner McLaughlin's only child is still gestating in its mother's womb and will be joining the world sometime in January. Loki Anderson Downtown Dean Lindberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did/do Commissioner McLaughlin's kids go to school? Terrell Brown wrote: A few things

Re: [Mpls] Primary Turnout

2005-09-16 Thread Loki Anderson
I'll agree that overall the low voter turnout is pathetic, but I do want to defend the honor of my old neighborhood. Precinct 3-1 is Dinkytown, where a great portion of the registered voters in the voter file have moved and a great number (probably a majority) of the eligible voters have

[Mpls] Drilling in Powderhorn Park...

2005-09-16 Thread Brandon Lacy
Frankly, if some loon nut decided to announce drilling for oil in Powderhorn Park, I doubt the party would do anything but hold their sides and giggle. As a long term resident of Powderhorn Park, I'd like to see Centerpoint bring a drill into that neighborhood. There would be some spectacular

[Mpls] Turnout: Best and Worst by Precinct

2005-09-16 Thread Aaron Klemz
Questions of overall turnout are interesting, but I'm fascinated by the unevenness of turnout. So I went and did a quick look see of the highest and lowest turnout precincts: Lowest (by percentage): 1) W2 P4 .78% 2) W3 P1 2.14% 3) W2 P11 2.26% 4) W5 P7 5.12% 5) W4 P9 5.14% Highest (by

Re: [Mpls] Primary Turnout

2005-09-16 Thread Greg Abbott
It is a mistake to draw conclusions from this low turnout primary election. There was nothing at stake in this election. Both Rybak and McLaughlin were going to advance to the general, and supporters on both sides knew that. Given the low stakes, plenty of folks in both camps sat this

RE: [Mpls] Turnout: Best and Worst by Precinct

2005-09-16 Thread Michael Atherton
Aaron Klemz wrote: Questions of overall turnout are interesting, but I'm fascinated by the unevenness of turnout. So I went and did a quick look see of the highest and lowest turnout precincts: Highest (by percentage) 1) W2 P2 32.13% W2 P2 is Prospect Park Central. I guess it's

RE: [Mpls] Turnout: Best and Worst by Precinct

2005-09-16 Thread Michael Atherton
OPPS! Right! Sorry, my mistake. Misread the map. Thanks Loki. Well, that's also interesting given that it's Cam Gordon's neighborhood. Right? Goes to show what can go wrong when you rush things. Ack. Michael Atherton Prospect Park _ From: Loki Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Mpls] Primary Turnout

2005-09-16 Thread freealonzo
Here's the scenario: Incumbent Mayor running for re-election for the first time in a primary against a well known, elected official who is charging that the incumbent hasn't done enough about crime or neighborhood development, and questioning the budget decisions over the past 4 years.

Re: [Mpls] Primary Turnout

2005-09-16 Thread Rick Mons
On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Erik Riese wrote: This is pathetic! We need to do something about how little the citizens care about their government. Perhaps we should institute an election quorum. Say 60% in a primary and 85% in a general. Unless we get that level of participation the

[Mpls] Why I didn't seek Green Party endorsement in 2005

2005-09-16 Thread Socialist2001
This year I stood for election to a seat on the Minneapolis City Council as a Green Party candidate and bypassed the local Green Party endorsement process. I decided to stand for election in early May, after being informed that the Green Party steering committee had recruited a candidate who I

[Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Constance Nompelis
Hello list, It has been brought to my attention by a friend who recently bought a corner hood store, that one of the best-selling items is a product known as roses which is a glass tube used for smoking crack. This product retails for $2.50. (Though stores purchase them wholesale for 13 cents

RE: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Dennis Plante
Some of the hood stores also sell small scales (for weighing) and jewelry bags for distributing $5 bags of pot behind the counter. dennis plante From: Constance Nompelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mpls@mnforum.org Subject: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store Date: Fri, 16 Sep

Re: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread John Harris
It has been brought to my attention by a friend who recently bought a corner hood store, that one of the best-selling items is a product known as roses which is a glass tube used for smoking crack. This product retails for $2.50. (Though stores purchase them wholesale for 13 cents each.)

RE: [Mpls] Turnout: Best and Worst by Precinct

2005-09-16 Thread Sheldon Mains
Looking at the numbers in more detail: The 14% voter turnout is calculated using the registered voters from last year. Last year's election saw a surge in voters because of the contentious presidential race. So the number of registered voters for this election is artificially high. Voter turn

RE: [Mpls] Primary Turnout

2005-09-16 Thread David Brauer
Greg Abbott notes: The results tell me that chronic voters (people who vote in every election, rain or shine) have a slight preference for Rybak. But given that turnout in the general election will more than double, perhaps even triple, from the primary, drawing any conclusions from

RE: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Leurquin, Ronald
Nope, as my insulin taking Mother found out when visiting here last year. She could get her insulin refilled, but her prescription for the syringes had run out so she could not get the very tool needed to take the insulin the pharmacy sold her. Ron Leurquin Nokomis East Constance wrote: In

[Mpls] re: best and worst turnout

2005-09-16 Thread flewn
There's a good reason for the low turnout in W2 P4 and W2 P11: the vast majority of both precincts' residents are U students living in dorms. They moved into their residences between the 3rd and 5th of September, less than thirty days before the primary, and were therefore legally prohibited

Re: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread mphilip451
I don't understand what the problem is selling a pipe or such. It's not causing people to go out buy drugs and smoke them. If someone wants to use crack they're going to find a way to do it whether it is with tin foil and a straw or with a light bulb. Now if you could buy crack at your local

RE: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Leurquin, Ronald
Restricting the sale of Sudafed is an effort to curb drug use by making production harder. Why not apply the curb to the paraphernalia used to take the drugs too? Sudafed access affects everyone, good or evil. Crack pipe access only affects the crack users. Ron Leurquin Nokomis East Matthew

Re: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Constance Nompelis
Having crack pipes in these corner stores is one of the ways in which the owners essentially support the drug dealers and crackheads. Another way is by allowing them to congregate out in front of the stores. There have been several shootings around Lake and Park recently... my realtor actually

Re: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread wmmarks
Leurquin, Ronald wrote: Restricting the sale of Sudafed is an effort to curb drug use by making production harder. Why not apply the curb to the paraphernalia used to take the drugs too? Sudafed access affects everyone, good or evil. Crack pipe access only affects the crack users. Ron Leurquin

RE: [Mpls] Primary Turnout

2005-09-16 Thread David Brauer
I need to correct myself, thanks to the insight of a more politically experienced list member. To recap: Greg Abbott notes: given that turnout in the general election will more than double, perhaps even triple, from the primary, drawing any conclusions from Tuesday's results is a fool's

Re: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread 5540Shauna JeMai Croom
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[Mpls] Low and High Turnout: More Complete

2005-09-16 Thread Aaron Klemz
Hi List - Well, I posted this morning, and got some great responses, but I thought maybe I should do more homework on the questions that I posed myself instead of being lazy. Several folks pointed out that the top 3 in low turnout were U dominated wards with students that may not have been

[Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Nathan Hunstad
On 9/16/05, Constance Nompelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a perfect world I would be libertarian and say let people do what they want to their own bodies... but this world ain't perfect and the drug dealers are shooting each other over turf and $$$ and the crack pipes, hood stores, and

RE: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Dennis Plante
Nathan Writes: If the problem is drug dealers shooting each other and other people over turf and $$$, then banning crack pipes or other paraphernalia from corner stores isn't going to accomplish anything. Users and dealers aren't prevented or encouraged to use or sell drugs based on whether

RE: [Mpls] Low and High Turnout: More Complete

2005-09-16 Thread Earl Netwal
Aaron, I recommend that if you are serious about trying to figure out turnout, you add into your thought proceses home ownership versus apartments. That variable may be leading you to think you are seeing affluence versus lack thereof. Actually both factors are probably relevant. Transients are

RE: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Michellehill64
Nathan Writes: If the problem is drug dealers shooting each other and other people over turf and $$$, then banning crack pipes or other paraphernalia from corner stores isn't going to accomplish anything. Users and dealers aren't prevented or encouraged to use or sell drugs based on whether

[Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Nathan Hunstad
On 9/16/05, Dennis Plante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Plante Responds: And how exactly would this solve the problem of disadvantage citizens earning a living illegally? Take away their income and my guess is they'fdmove-on to something equally illegal and just as damaging to society. Of

Re: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Constance Nompelis
You know what? I've had this conversation - (to legalize or not to legalize?) at many a cocktail party and upscale restaurant gathering... it's nice and philosophical but frankly I don't have the ear of the President or the Senate so it ain't changing in Minneapolis this week. I have learned

[Mpls] Felien on Zimmerman

2005-09-16 Thread Shawne FitzGerald
What did Dean do wrong? By Ed Felien http://www.pulsetc.com/article.php?sid=2052 Shawne FitzGerald Powderhorn REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before

[Mpls] Politics in Minnesota on the Mpls mayor's race

2005-09-16 Thread List Manager
Note: this is published by Republican Sarah Janecek, who lives in Minneapolis, and DFLer Blois Olson. See www.politicsinminnesota.com: Across the River...Where the Mayor System is Weak. Two middle-aged white guys running against each other. Both from south Minneapolis (the political stronghold

[Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store.....better answers

2005-09-16 Thread WJKAHN
I'll concede that we're not going to take the profits (and the killing) out of the illicit drug trade without getting the Feds on board, but until that happens, we have to do something. I'd like the list to consider a Force 5 Hurricane analogy; since the udder night, Dubya seems more than

Re: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Barbara Lickness
Many times I have heard people on this list say the drug problems we are currently experiencing on the streets of a select group of neighborhoods in Mpls. would all just go away if drugs were legalized. You are absolutely correct. However, they aren't legal and as a result streets like mine

RE: [Mpls] Crack pipes for sale at your local corner store

2005-09-16 Thread Barbara Lickness
It is actually illegal to sell drug paraphenalia in Mpls. If you go into Electric Fetus where they sell tobacco smoking products and mention that you might use that product to consume an illicit drug the employees in the store have been instructed not to sell them to you. My neice used to work