Re: [Mpls] Voodoo/Stadium economics
CLark Griffith wrote: It is a sad situation, that could have been saved by spending .5% of the taxes we send to the state every year. Now who would really notice a tax increase of .5%, that would be paid for by other people anyway, One-half percent, huh? Let's see, I just ran some calculations and found that with that amount of money I could... Buy a season ticket to the Twins. Buy 2/3 of a class room of Math books to empower the next generation to see through voodo economics.Buy 1/2 of a new computer for a school (Well, actually *I* could build a full system for a school but we're talkin' retail.) Get a month ahead on my mortage. Get a month ahead on my student loans. Donate a student loan payment to a Legal Aid Attorney who will help dozens of needy people in that month.Donate a couple of student loan payments to a teacher. Donate it to my favorite charity. Invest it for my retirement. Invest it for my child's college. - OR - I could give it to a bunch of millionaires so they can keep raking in MORE profits. Geee, I dunno, seems like a tough call. Robert Schmid 8th Ward With special thanks to all my math teachers and my mother who taught me the basics of accounting. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Voodoo/Stadium economics
List of Stupid stuff My Tax Dollars are Used For: 1.Mayor's husband's car payment Moving a decrepid theater 1/2 block New ashtrays installed outside city hall Maybe a stadium isn't so crazy after all. JHarmon Cleveland _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Voodoo/Stadium economics
In a message dated 11/13/01 3:59:44 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: List of Stupid stuff My Tax Dollars are Used For: 1.Mayor's husband's car payment Where did that come from? The last time I looked that was illegal. Do you have any evidence of this? Karen Collier Linden Hills
Re: [Mpls] Voodoo/Stadium economics
Congratulations, Robert, I didn't say raise taxes by .5%, I said .5% of taxes paid. So this is not .5% on top of an 8% tax rate, this is .5% of 100% of taxes collected. I mentioned a tax increase of .5% and not a tax rate increase of .5%. That was misleading. I am talking about a much smaller bite, and I'm talking about all taxes paid by all taxpayers, including corporations. Cheers, Clark Griffith, Seventh Ward ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Voodoo/Stadium economics
This doesn't change the original premise that somehow slipping a little more tax in under the radar won't be a big deal. The problem is still that this means you are putting the priority of a stadium higher than all the other programs that could benefit by that .5%. And what about the Vikings? Can anyone imagine spending $500 million on a stadium just for the Vikings, which could be used for a maximum of 12 games per season (2 preseason, 8 regular-season, 2 playoff)? Hey, it's just .5%. How about another stadium for the 'U'? Not that Pres. Yudof couldn't find other uses for the money, I hope, I hope, I hope. Of course the streets around the city are crap. Not to worry... how about another .5%? Where does this thinking stop? How about another 2 or 3 downgrades in the city's bond ratings? I don't remember the name of the guy that you appeared with on ESPN2 on Sunday who used to own part of the Mariners. His point was that no one can make money in baseball. The game is in chaos. Why can't they do this without us? The latest case can be viewed at http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2001/1113/1277609.html. Andruw Jones from Atlanta gets a 6-year contract extension worth $75 million. He hit 34 HRs, drove in 104 and hit a robust .251 last year. How in God's green earth does he get $75 million? It makes the vaunted Kirby contract look like chump change. If the folks with pockets far deeper than mine are willing to get into this mess, so be it. Let their egos lead their wallets. But please leave mine alone! Walt Cygan 12-5 Keewaydin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clark C. Griffith Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:42 PM To: Robert Schmid Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Voodoo/Stadium economics Congratulations, Robert, I didn't say raise taxes by .5%, I said .5% of taxes paid. So this is not .5% on top of an 8% tax rate, this is .5% of 100% of taxes collected. I mentioned a tax increase of .5% and not a tax rate increase of .5%. That was misleading. I am talking about a much smaller bite, and I'm talking about all taxes paid by all taxpayers, including corporations. Cheers, Clark Griffith, Seventh Ward ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
