Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism, etc....

2003-08-14 Thread Dyna
On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 10:11 AM, Connie Beckers wrote: Like in my neighborhood, they call me a white bitch -- so that's racist, right? I've been called a WB so many times it doesn't even bother me any more... except for the time when a bunch of gangbangers yelled bang the white bitch

RE: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Connie Beckers
I've heard it both ways, it is and it isn't. I look at it this way. Say you're being tailgated by a white driver, then further up the road you're being tailgated by a black driver. If you refer to the first driver as an idiot and the second driver as a black idiot, that's an example of

[Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Eduardo Parra
David, While I fully appreciate your volunteer management of this listserv, and the fact that you acknowledge that you did not respond in a timely manner to the racist comments posted recently, your explanation that the comments were not sustained is a hollow one. Anyone who has been

Re: Fwd: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread phaedrus
most diabolically professorial sentence I could come up with. Absolutely no one got it. Ehh. Just because no one saw a need to comment on it doesn't mean they didn't get it. I did find it amusing that shade (by which, I assume you meant ghost) was interpretted as a tint thing. But anyway,

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Susan Maricle
I've been extremely busy at work, which is why I haven't responded to any of the posts. But to respond in brief now: Humor can be a very difficult thing to convey in an e-mail, especially if the person reading it doesn't know you well. The originating post did fall flat, but not enough for me to

RE: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism, etc....

2003-08-14 Thread Connie Beckers
Thanks, Dyna -- Actually, my reasons for wanting to leave aren't real hard-core crime related -- just more frustration, hurt and irradiation with recent events. That couple that got victimized three times in less than 24 hours lives (I mean 'lived'; they moved last week) just a half a block away

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread David Wilson
Feh! David Wilson Loring Park On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Eduardo Parra wrote: David, While I fully appreciate your volunteer management of this listserv, and the fact that you acknowledge that you did not respond in a timely manner to the racist comments posted recently, your explanation that

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Anderson Turpin
I've heard it both ways, it is and it isn't. I look at it this way. Say you're being tailgated by a white driver, then further up the road you're being tailgated by a black driver. If you refer to the first driver as an idiot and the second driver as a black idiot, that's an example of

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Susan Maricle
--- Jim Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not racist to describe someone using their color as an adjective SAM: I've heard it both ways, it is and it isn't. I look at it this way. Say you're being tailgated by a white driver, then further up the road you're being tailgated by a black

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Eduardo Parra
- From: Anne McCandless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism I would imagine if someone made one crack about white

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-12 Thread Susan Maricle
I had this conversation offlist, it occurred to me I should have it onlist too. Yes, calling someone a white bitch is racist. My husband had a good reply. When threatened and called White Boy, he shot back, That's MISTER White Boy to you. Susan Maricle formerly of Folwell Bruno MN Like in my

Fwd: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-11 Thread Joncgord
---BeginMessage--- In a message dated 8/8/03 4:40:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would imagine if someone made one crack about white Minnesotans, tuna casseroles, or ridiculed anyone who made fun of someone who used terms such as uffda, you betcha, there would be

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-11 Thread Eduardo Parra
: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism Well said! From: Eduardo Parra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:39:18 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols

RE: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-11 Thread List Manager
Eduardo Parra writes: While I fully appreciate your volunteer management of this listserv, and the fact that you acknowledge that you did not respond in a timely manner to the racist comments posted recently, your explanation that the comments were not sustained is a hollow one. Anyone who

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-11 Thread Eduardo Parra
together to solve this blight, I might have an easier time with really not big deal comments such as yours. Eduardo Parra Cleveland - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-10 Thread Jim Bernstein
] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2003, 11:21 PM Most of the time I am a lurker on this list. Often though, I've wanted to point out to all sides that the discussion here only reflects the institutional racism that we live

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-09 Thread Shawne FitzGerald
Most of the time I am a lurker on this list. Often though, I've wanted to point out to all sides that the discussion here only reflects the institutional racism that we live with in the US. Our US definitions of race, besides confusing ethnicity and ancestral geography, are fallacy. Look to

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-09 Thread Anne McCandless
I would imagine if someone made one crack about white Minnesotans, tuna casseroles, or ridiculed anyone who made fun of someone who used terms such as uffda, you betcha, there would be a whole bunch of folk responding to such comments you must have just moved to Minnesota. Not only do us white