[Mpls] Politicking and the NRP - Part II

2005-01-25 Thread Bob Johnson
[Titus wrote] Most neighborhoods, I suspect, have nowhere near the turnout at local meetings that they do for a national election. It is a shame that this is true, and I believe that most, if not all, of us who work on behalf of our neighborhoods wish it were not. [Johnson writes] True,

[Mpls] Politicking and the NRP...Wake up and smell the deficits!

2005-01-24 Thread Victoria Heller
[Dorothy Titus] I don't see how it would be better to let the city council determine where the money is spent. [Vicky Heller] Excuse me! Why do you think they get elected? The City Council is supposed to safeguard the public treasury; use money wisely. They are supposed to deal with

RE: [Mpls] Politicking and the NRP...Wake up and smell the deficits!

2005-01-24 Thread David Brauer
I hope the charge below won't overly distract the list. There's no evidence presented. There's also no indication that audit information - from NRP or other government bodies - is unavailable. There are many legitimate policy differences for us to discuss. But the frequent criminalizing of

Re: [Mpls] Politicking and the NRP...Wake up and smell the deficits!

2005-01-24 Thread Terrell Brown
--- Victoria Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are supposed to deal with Potholes, Police, Parks, and Pyrofighters. That's it. [Note: Hennepin County provides libraries] [TB] Where did you find your list? I always thought it was a bit longer and included such things as snow plowing,

RE: [Mpls] Politicking and the NRP...Wake up and smell the deficits!

2005-01-24 Thread Michael Atherton
Terrell Brown wrote: Every neighborhood group getting NRP money is audited. In Loring Park its by the State Auditor. Last time I checked, the State Auditor was a Republican. Last I checked she'd changed her name to Anderson but hadn't changed political parties. Remember the line from

Re: [Mpls] Politicking and the NRP

2005-01-23 Thread Dorothy Titus
Bob Johnson wrote: However, when it came to the turnout of C-RWB voters eligible to vote for authorizing the expenditure of $1,500,000 in NRP funds about that same time, it was a very different type of democracy, a dubious democracy to be nice. Of the 6,212 C-RWB residents eligible to vote, about

[Mpls] Politicking and the NRP

2005-01-21 Thread Bob Johnson
NRP has had 15 years to prove its worth. If it is so pacesetting, why haven't other cities followed suit after 15 years of this experiment, which is said to owe its genesis to Cedar-Riverside West Bank's failed and fraudulent neighborhood movement in the 1970s and 80s. An award from Harvard

Re: [Mpls] Politicking and the NRP

2005-01-21 Thread David Brauer
On Jan 21, 2005, at 9:41 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: NRP has had 15 years to prove its worth. If it is so pacesetting, why haven't other cities followed suit after 15 years of this experiment, This is faulty logic. Perhaps the institutional barriers in other places are too strong to permit a good

Re: [Mpls] Politicking and the NRP

2005-01-21 Thread David Brauer
oops. That doesn't mean NRP is perfectable - far from it. But it doesn't mean it's a fraud, worthless, etc. Should read: That doesn't mean NRP isn't perfectable - far from it. Turning off computer now David Brauer Kingfield REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at